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Thread: Seriously. A billboard??!

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    Re: Seriously. A billboard??!

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    As I said, in this particular case, it sounds like this guy is just a douchebag.

    Addressing the idea more generally though, have you considered that having one's SigOther abort one's unborn child against the father's wishes might drive the guy a bit around the bend? A man who wanted that baby, who wanted to be a father, who considered the unilateral abortion to be a shocking betrayal and repudiation of what he thought was a loving relationship, could easily be driven into a temporarily irrational state by such a situation. A reaction like this (billboard) might seem reasonable to someone who felt like their entire world had been laid waste by someone they trusted, in such a disturbed state.

    Don't underestimate how terribly such a thing could break a man's heart and ruin his judgement, if he really wanted that child and it was snuffed out before he so much as had a chance to say "Wait a minute..."

    (Again, I'm not talking about that guy in the story; I'm speaking more generally.)

    We're always being asked to have compassion for the woman with an unwanted pregnancy; I'm turning the coin over and asking for some consideration about a man's feelings when his unborn's life is taken out of his hands without so much as a discussion.
    So wanting a baby and not getting one can drive a man around the bend, make him irrational, lay his entire world at waste, break his heart and ruin his judgement, all this without even affecting his body at all? So for a woman whose body IS enormously affected (pun intended), how do you think she is affected by NOT wanting a baby but getting one anyway?
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    Re: Seriously. A billboard??!

    If it can be proven that she either had an abortion or told him or someone else willing to testify that she did, then I suspect he's done nothing wrong....truth being the ultimate defense in cases of libel and slander.

    I don't feel sorry for her. She picked the goofball.
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    Re: Seriously. A billboard??!

    Dailymail article

    According to this other article he states that he:

    doesn't know how the child died. He said: 'But if it was abortion, then my purpose is to try to prevent this from happening to someone else'.
    So, yeah - obvious libel - he even admits it's libel. He doesn't actually know anything about how things happened but went and did this anyway.


    And - you're right - he's a nutter:
    He listens to a diverse range of music and lists Bill Gates and Satanist author Anton LaVey as 'people who inspire' him. He lists the TV show 'Big Love' and the 'Saw' movies as favourites.
    Really - Anton LaVey as a guy who inspires him. Geesh man. . . what a way to pick 'em
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    Re: Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard

    Flip this around....

    Lets say he had a picture of him smiling and looking all healthy with the caption "This is what I'd look like if my ex-girlfriend didn't give me HIV".

    Add to that he has no factual evidence that his ex HAD HIV and he's slept with other people so it may not even have came from her.

    Would that be legal in your mind?

    You're borderline revealing private medical information to someone on an extremely public level, which I could see veering into the harassment category. If it wasn't for him putting her name up there in an attempt to use it as an acronym for a group that doesn't exist, I'd be leaning a bit the other way. However, because of that, I can see where it falls potentially more on the illegal side.

    I think he's a grade A douche bag and jerk, and if it turns out there's nothing legally wrong with what he did then so be it...however, I have no issue with it being examined if he did violate the law and if he did, even slightly, throwing the book at him.

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    Re: Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    A scumbag that refused to marry his pregnant girlfriend and then did this after she told him she miscarried?.
    According to one of the links posted earlier on, she refused to tell him if she miscarried or had an abortion.

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    Re: Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard

    Is the guy a major douche for doing this? Yup, sure is. I'd smack him silly if I knew him.

    Does he have a legal right to do this? Sorry, but yes... he does. It's not only 'her' private life that is being discussed, but 'his' as well.

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    Re: Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    A scumbag that refused to marry his pregnant girlfriend and then did this after she told him she miscarried?

    The only time I want a subhuman spokesperson is when I'm arguing for ape rights.
    Ok?? First?? The woman's friend said she miscarried.. So I don't know where you are getting that.. Did you read something other than the OP??

    The woman's friends say she had a miscarriage, not an abortion, according to a report in the Albuquerque Journal.
    According to the article.. The women refused to say whether she aborted or had a miscarriage.. I am guessing she aborted.. There would be no reason to hide the miscarriage.. I also didn't see anything about him refusing to marry her.. Again, is there another article??

    You obviously know more than I do about it.. I still don't know how you all figured out her name was Nani.. Again that isn't in the OP article..

    So.. Where are you getting all this other info and are you sure it is correct??

    Like I said.. I don't like his wording..

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    Re: Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    The problem is that your entire post reeks of a double standard.. She also can choose to not have sex or be on the pill.. So why should she be able to get an abortion?? Sorry.. But your that part of your post is irrelevent.. If he can wear a condomn then she can take a pill.. If he can choose not to have sex then so can she.. By my logic she can force him not to wear a condomn?? Dude?? Lay off the Canadian hash!! No more trips to Vancouver for you!! I never said he could force her not to have it.. Please read my post again.. I did say that he should be able to force her to have the child, so he can raise it on his own.. He is the father after all.. He should have just as much right to that child as she does.. It takes two to make a baby.. Two should decide what to do with it.. If she has the option to terminate the pregnancy and basically walk away.. He should have the same option, should she decide to have it..

    It isn't harrassment.. And there is no liability.. There is also no disclosure of medical records.. You are grasping at straws.. Is a billboard that says smoking can cause cancer a disclosure of medical records?? Give me a break!!

    Her name being Nani is irrelevent.. The general public doesn't know that.. Fake acronym or not.. He is legally covered.. The general public doesn't know her real name nor do they know the acronym is fake.. Unless you can prove they do, then the legal arguement is closed..
    This post is 14 kinds of bull**** too numerous for me to go into BUT: Who would you think would be more generally and logically capable of retaining the thought "You can't have a party without the balloons."; a 35 y/o or an 18 y/o.

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    Re: Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Ok?? First?? The woman's friend said she miscarried.. So I don't know where you are getting that.. Did you read something other than the OP??



    According to the article.. The women refused to say whether she aborted or had a miscarriage.. I am guessing she aborted.. There would be no reason to hide the miscarriage.. I also didn't see anything about him refusing to marry her.. Again, is there another article??

    You obviously know more than I do about it.. I still don't know how you all figured out her name was Nani.. Again that isn't in the OP article..

    So.. Where are you getting all this other info and are you sure it is correct??

    Like I said.. I don't like his wording..
    Yes, there was another article posted further down thread, but I may be thinking of this thread located in the abortion folder..

    She wanted to get married. He refused. Right there, in my estimation, the ball became hers and hers alone, to do with as she saw fit. If he didn't want to commit? There's your sign. And every female I know, looking at a six-month old relationship that ended in pregnancy and no offer of marriage, would agree.

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    Re: Seriously. A billboard??!

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    While I agree that the guy is a douche, being married wouldn't necessarily have changed anything. She still could have had an abortion and he couldn't do dick about it.
    Irrelevant, and immaterial to this case.

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