Is Hatred wrong?

Henrin said:

Why is hating a person wrong? Why can't I just hate someone if they are a horrible person?

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What do you gain personally from hating someone? How would hate enrich your life?

Risky Thicket said:

What do you gain personally from hating someone? How would hate enrich your life?

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If there are holes in you, you can use hate to fill them. You can sustain yourself on hatred when you have nothing else to hold onto.

Wake said:

How so?

What is wrong with extreme dislike?

What is hate?

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When the word is used correctly, hate is an emotion reserved for those we used to care about a greal deal....usually involving betrayal.

It is a destructive emotion most of the time. Carried to its extreme, it is all-consuming and impairs one's mental health.

Viktyr Korimir said:

If there are holes in you, you can use hate to fill them. You can sustain yourself on hatred when you have nothing else to hold onto.

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You can, but you can't ever have yourself back if that's what you choose to fill yourself with.

Hate is like a virus. And Risky makes a very good point about its similarity of action, if opposite of experience, to love.

You are never, ever the same after your first real love. And you are never, ever the same after your first real hate.

If you let that define you, you're never even human again. Just as if you let your first love define you, you never love again.

I could not imagine existing with that for a second longer than it took me to figure out how to destroy it. It was a horrible way to feel.

MistressNomad said:

You can, but you can't ever have yourself back if that's what you choose to fill yourself with.

Hate is like a virus. And Risky makes a very good point about its similarity of action, if opposite of experience, to love.

You are never, ever the same after your first real love. And you are never, ever the same after your first real hate.

If you let that define you, you're never even human again. Just as if you let your first love define you, you never love again.

I could not imagine existing with that for a second longer than it took me to figure out how to destroy it. It was a horrible way to feel.

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I agree with this. I remember the first time I felt like I truly hated someone, it was a disgusting, horrible, consuming feeling. There's some quote like, "Hate is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die." That sums it up pretty well.

In the end, I think it becomes pretty impossible to hate anyone when you understand them which is why I think understanding is the most important social tool. I don't even think one can hate a serial killer when you understand the causes of their actions.

There was never enough of me to make a real human being out of. I'm trying to find what's left of me without my hate, and it isn't much.

theplaydrive said:

In the end, I think it becomes pretty impossible to hate anyone when you understand them which is why I think understanding is the most important social tool.

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It's easier to hate someone when you understand them. You just have to hate yourself, too.

Viktyr Korimir said:

It's easier to hate someone when you understand them. You just have to hate yourself, too.

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Indeed, I'd go so far as to say hating oneself is required to hate in the first place.

This is the reason hatred is wrong. We are all numerically one, so when you hate or think ill of another you are hating and thinking ill of yourself. Hatred is just like putting your finger on a hot stove. It is good and natural to stop. If you stubbornly persist, you end up hurting yourself.

Viktyr Korimir said:

It's easier to hate someone when you understand them. You just have to hate yourself, too.

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Eh. I don't think anyone who hates himself understands himself so by default hating another means you don't understand yourself or the other person.

Wake said:

How so?

What is wrong with extreme dislike?

What is hate?

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It's the interpretation of a chemical process which occurs in portions of the brain involving various systoms of function and is involuntary as are all other chemical activities and sensations.

How you respond to the emotion, however, is key.

Viktyr Korimir said:

There was never enough of me to make a real human being out of. I'm trying to find what's left of me without my hate, and it isn't much.

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That is because hatred feeds on you.

After a year or so, I figured out how to get rid of my hatred (and incidentally, it was exactly what theplaydrive said - through understanding) 2 or 3 years ago. And I am still rebuilding parts of myself that it destroyed. I probably will be for another few years.

It's not easy. In the moment, it can seem like it hurts worse than just letting yourself hate. But even the memory of it is making me feel ill, and I am so glad I do not live like that anymore.

It's worth the effort.

Viktyr Korimir said:

There was never enough of me to make a real human being out of. I'm trying to find what's left of me without my hate, and it isn't much.

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Kori, have you ever tried meditation?

Viktyr Korimir said:

There was never enough of me to make a real human being out of. I'm trying to find what's left of me without my hate, and it isn't much.

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This is a strange comment coming from you - you don't come off as a hate filled person in your posts (at least the ones I've read).

Guy Incognito said:

This is the reason hatred is wrong. We are all numerically one, so when you hate or think ill of another you are hating and thinking ill of yourself. Hatred is just like putting your finger on a hot stove. It is good and natural to stop. If you stubbornly persist, you end up hurting yourself.

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But at least you're keeping warm.

Guy Incognito said:

Indeed, I'd go so far as to say hating oneself is required to hate in the first place.

This is the reason hatred is wrong. We are all numerically one, so when you hate or think ill of another you are hating and thinking ill of yourself. Hatred is just like putting your finger on a hot stove. It is good and natural to stop. If you stubbornly persist, you end up hurting yourself.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say we're numerically one.

Many cultures and social networks exist independently of mine and what I do will not affect them unless I go over there and start some ****.

Aunt Spiker said:

I wouldn't go so far as to say we're numerically one.

Many cultures and social networks exist independently of mine and what I do will not affect them unless I go over there and start some ****.

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I mean that in the mystical sense. We all share one soul. So when I hurt you I am really hurting myself.

theplaydrive said:

This is a strange comment coming from you - you don't come off as a hate filled person in your posts (at least the ones I've read).

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I want to create a world that doesn't create things like me. I want to make people better so that they will disgust me less.

Viktyr Korimir said:

I want to create a world that doesn't create things like me. I want to make people better so that they will disgust me less.

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If you take your finger off the stove, the pain will stop.

Guy Incognito said:

If you take your finger off the stove, the pain will stop.

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If he takes his finger off the stove, he feels nothing.

After the intensity of feeling your flesh burn for who knows how long, what would truly make you feel after that?

And the healing of the burn is even worse than the burning itself.

Viktyr Korimir said:

I want to create a world that doesn't create things like me. I want to make people better so that they will disgust me less.

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You know, you see what you want to see. You see in others what you see in yourself.

Humans are a paradox. The existence of tremendous good and tremendous wickedness simultaniously, somehow managing to exist in a single body without tearing into two halves, with a garble of skin and tissue in between. All of us are like that. The best, and the worst. I'm like that. You're like that.

You cannot make the world less disgusting when you are focused on that which is wicked. Especially not if you are focusing on it from within yourself.

Don't make the world less disgusting. Make it more beautiful.

I know it is not that simple. I know hatred has the compelling and beautiful ability to multiply itself, to force ones body to subsist on seemingly thin air, laced only with itself.

But you're still dying. The only difference is that you, the important you, the mind and the soul, are dying faster than the body. Hatred is just numbing it. If that were what you deserved, you wouldn't desire to change anything at all. Those truly worth hating can't feel hate. They are hate. Only the loving can feel it. Paradox.

It is worth it to be faced with nothingness, a self seemingly made of nothing but an inverted hole, and to work up, though it's painful in a way similar to how I imagine birth to be, would but we could remember.

It's worth it because that is the only way to affect the change you desire. And to stop the pain. Other feelings will come. You just have to want them enough to let go of the pain, and wait.

Viktyr Korimir said:

I want to create a world that doesn't create things like me. I want to make people better so that they will disgust me less.

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I simply wish to kill all humans.

MistressNomad said:

If he takes his finger off the stove, he feels nothing.

After the intensity of feeling your flesh burn for who knows how long, what would truly make you feel after that?

And the healing of the burn is even worse than the burning itself.

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Let's reexamine this, shall we?

Guy Incognito said:

Let's reexamine this, shall we?

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Numbness, after stimuli is removed. The tissue realizes it is no longer under attack. This may take minutes, hours, or even days.

Then the healing begins. And the healing of burns is far and away the most painful.

MistressNomad said:

Numbness, after stimuli is removed. The tissue realizes it is no longer under attack. This may take minutes, hours, or even days.

Then the healing begins. And the healing of burns is far and away the most painful.

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If you like to be burned, burn yourself. If you don't like to be burned, take your finger off the stove.

I use hatred as fuel to burn, in order to achieve goals.

Is that wrong or unsafe?