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Is Hatred wrong?

Is hatred wrong?


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Your post is nothingness, BDBoop. That didn't respond to any of my points and obscures the point you think you're making.
 
I never said that it did, Wake.

Look up the definition of figurative and apply it.


So when terrorists hate the united states, their hate does not create negativity? When person X hates person Y, their hate based treatment of person Y doesn't create negativity?


I disagree. One can know and understand and hate only if one rejects that knowledge and understanding. If you accept what you know and understand, you don't hate. For example, I hate a sociopathic murderer when I reject the knowledge that he doesn't make decisions like me. I don't hate him when I accept that knowledge.

It seemed that way.

Figurative is not objective. So long as you at it is figurative, we are go.

Concepts, emotions, and beliefs do not birth concepts, emotions, and beliefs. I believe in cause and effect when it comes to such intangibility, not creation.

Respectfully, I see it differently. I don't see how it is true that if you accept and understand everything, you cannot hate. With the sociopath scenario I am a little doubtful. Not everyone would hate the sociopath in your way and why. I can perfectly understand and accept onions, yet hate them. I know what they are, what they do, and what they dream (lol). Same with sociopaths. I do not have to know everything about them because it doesn't matter. It does not matter to me what they think, eat, etc. What matters is what they have/are/are trying to do.

I respect you for your civility and thoughtful posts.
 
It seemed that way.
What I meant was that hatred can be useful until the negative it creates overpowers the positive.

Figurative is not objective. So long as you at it is figurative, we are go.
Right. When I or anyone else says hate is toxic, we mean hate harms the person who holds it. I would say that hate is just as objectively toxic as depression and sadness are.

Concepts, emotions, and beliefs do not birth concepts, emotions, and beliefs. I believe in cause and effect when it comes to such intangibility, not creation.
Right. And the hate of a terrorist causes his violence. In other words, hate causes negativity.

Respectfully, I see it differently. I don't see how it is true that if you accept and understand everything, you cannot hate. With the sociopath scenario I am a little doubtful. Not everyone would hate the sociopath in your way and why. I can perfectly understand and accept onions, yet hate them. I know what they are, what they do, and what they dream (lol).
I concede the onion point, but when I talked about understanding, I had hatred of people and their actions, thoughts, etc. in mind. Although I don't really understand how people "hate" inanimate objects.

Same with sociopaths. I do not have to know everything about them because it doesn't matter. It does not matter to me what they think, eat, etc. What matters is what they have/are/are trying to do.
This is difficult for me to believe if only for the fact that understanding and knowledge consistently kills hatred in every generation. For example, it's more difficult for the white child of a racist to hate blacks if he grows up with black people and understands how similar they are to him. Similarly, many formerly homophobic parents find it more difficult to hate gays when their child turns out to be gay (so long as those parents accept what they've learned).

It's the same with sociopaths. You say "it doesn't matter to me what they think/I don't have to know about them" and that's the problem I'm talking about. If it doesn't matter then you neither have an understanding of them nor accept what knowledge you've gained of them and therefore maintain your ability to hate them. For example, if a person kills my friend, then I will hate them because of what they did. I hate them because they chose to take away my friend.

Now, if I find out that the person who killed my friend was severely mentally retarded, then I'll likely stop hating them because it becomes clear that they have an impaired ability to control themselves and think the way I do about killing. It's the same with a sociopath - they have an impaired ability to judge and different sort of free will than I have. In other words, when I stop judging the murderer as if he has had the same experiences and mental health as I do and instead judge him according to his own reality, then it becomes more difficult for me to hate him because I judge him from his own mind.

I respect you for your civility and thoughtful posts.
thanks. the same goes for you.
 
Anger can lead to hatred which has an erosion effect on all areas of a person's life. IE: your only hurting yourself..
 
I don't think hate is necessarily wrong. I hate nazis and don't feel any need to overcome this.

As mentioned, anger can be corrosive. I think a lot of people get "hate" and "anger" mixed up. Hate is just equal to intense loathing, i think, but the person still has a "cool head", they can act rationally.
 
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