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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    There was never enough of me to make a real human being out of. I'm trying to find what's left of me without my hate, and it isn't much.
    That is because hatred feeds on you.

    After a year or so, I figured out how to get rid of my hatred (and incidentally, it was exactly what theplaydrive said - through understanding) 2 or 3 years ago. And I am still rebuilding parts of myself that it destroyed. I probably will be for another few years.

    It's not easy. In the moment, it can seem like it hurts worse than just letting yourself hate. But even the memory of it is making me feel ill, and I am so glad I do not live like that anymore.

    It's worth the effort.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    There was never enough of me to make a real human being out of. I'm trying to find what's left of me without my hate, and it isn't much.
    Kori, have you ever tried meditation?

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    There was never enough of me to make a real human being out of. I'm trying to find what's left of me without my hate, and it isn't much.
    This is a strange comment coming from you - you don't come off as a hate filled person in your posts (at least the ones I've read).

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    This is the reason hatred is wrong. We are all numerically one, so when you hate or think ill of another you are hating and thinking ill of yourself. Hatred is just like putting your finger on a hot stove. It is good and natural to stop. If you stubbornly persist, you end up hurting yourself.
    But at least you're keeping warm.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Indeed, I'd go so far as to say hating oneself is required to hate in the first place.

    This is the reason hatred is wrong. We are all numerically one, so when you hate or think ill of another you are hating and thinking ill of yourself. Hatred is just like putting your finger on a hot stove. It is good and natural to stop. If you stubbornly persist, you end up hurting yourself.
    I wouldn't go so far as to say we're numerically one.

    Many cultures and social networks exist independently of mine and what I do will not affect them unless I go over there and start some ****.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I wouldn't go so far as to say we're numerically one.

    Many cultures and social networks exist independently of mine and what I do will not affect them unless I go over there and start some ****.
    I mean that in the mystical sense. We all share one soul. So when I hurt you I am really hurting myself.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    This is a strange comment coming from you - you don't come off as a hate filled person in your posts (at least the ones I've read).
    I want to create a world that doesn't create things like me. I want to make people better so that they will disgust me less.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I want to create a world that doesn't create things like me. I want to make people better so that they will disgust me less.
    If you take your finger off the stove, the pain will stop.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    If you take your finger off the stove, the pain will stop.
    If he takes his finger off the stove, he feels nothing.

    After the intensity of feeling your flesh burn for who knows how long, what would truly make you feel after that?

    And the healing of the burn is even worse than the burning itself.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I want to create a world that doesn't create things like me. I want to make people better so that they will disgust me less.
    You know, you see what you want to see. You see in others what you see in yourself.

    Humans are a paradox. The existence of tremendous good and tremendous wickedness simultaniously, somehow managing to exist in a single body without tearing into two halves, with a garble of skin and tissue in between. All of us are like that. The best, and the worst. I'm like that. You're like that.

    You cannot make the world less disgusting when you are focused on that which is wicked. Especially not if you are focusing on it from within yourself.

    Don't make the world less disgusting. Make it more beautiful.

    I know it is not that simple. I know hatred has the compelling and beautiful ability to multiply itself, to force ones body to subsist on seemingly thin air, laced only with itself.

    But you're still dying. The only difference is that you, the important you, the mind and the soul, are dying faster than the body. Hatred is just numbing it. If that were what you deserved, you wouldn't desire to change anything at all. Those truly worth hating can't feel hate. They are hate. Only the loving can feel it. Paradox.

    It is worth it to be faced with nothingness, a self seemingly made of nothing but an inverted hole, and to work up, though it's painful in a way similar to how I imagine birth to be, would but we could remember.

    It's worth it because that is the only way to affect the change you desire. And to stop the pain. Other feelings will come. You just have to want them enough to let go of the pain, and wait.
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