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Thread: Is Hatred wrong?

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Except maybe that. Morally relativist animes, sigh. Why do you think they fear authority? That's right, I call Nuke.
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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Except maybe that.
    You don't get to decide when everyone has to stop talking, dude.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's ok to hate evil, but only evil. Asking someone to understand it is too much.
    And if I hate being weak or unhealthy? And if I decide to channel such hatred as fuel for focusing on such goals?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hatred is not just an intense dislike. There is an implied ignorance. That ignorance is only permissable in the case of evil.


    Look, that's it, folks. There's nothing else to say here.
    I think not, ecofarm. You state ignorance is implied. My Webster dictionaries do not.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Why are feelings wrong?
    Interesting... Just as theories themselves can never be wrong or harmful...

    But...

    ...is it wrong to feel murderous?

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But...

    ...is it wrong to feel murderous?
    No. We can't always help what we feel. A perfectly decent person could be murderous. It happens sometimes, with some sorts of mental illness.

    The FEELING isn't wrong. The potential action that could follow the feeling could be.

    A person who feel murderous, instead of murdering someone, could choose to tell a psychiatric professional. Their feelings of murderousness, then, have hurt no one (assuming the situation is dealt with properly).

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Websters
    Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
    All bigots aren't racist, but all racist are bigots. Motives for hatred might be undefinable...however,

    The most observable facet of hate is: Being a bigot isn't against the law UNLESS one's hatred extends beyond his or her beliefs and is manifested into behaviors that infringe on the rights of others. An example would be hate crimes committed by KKK or White Supremacist such as hangings, destruction of property, inciting violence. A lot of individuals, not affiliated with any group, can engage in behaviors that are obviously driven by hate.

    Other types of offense of hatred perpetrated by one person against another include but for from being limited to: Employment opportunities and related areas, withholding appropriate medical attention, ignoring the educational needs of one group over another. On and on and on...

    Well, you might used the following for food for thought:

    • In 2008, 13,690 law enforcement agencies submitted hate crime data to the
    UCR Program.

    Of these agencies, 2,145 reported 7,783 hate crime incidents involving 9,168 offenses.

    • Of the 7,783 reported incidents, 7,780 were single-bias and involved 9,160 offenses, 9,683 victims, and 6,921 offenders.

    • The 3 multiple-bias incidents reported in 2008 involved 8 offenses, 8 victims, and 6 offenders.

    An examination of hate crime offenses classified as crimes against property revealed the following:

    • 50.9 percent of these offenses were directed at individuals.

    • 12.9 percent of these offenses were against businesses or financial institutions.

    • 8.9 percent of these offenses were against government.

    • 6.6 percent of these offenses were against religious organizations.

    • The remaining 20.6 percent of these offenses were directed at other, multiple, or
    unknown victim types. (Based on Table 6.)

    If you have questions about this information
    Contact the FBI’s Criminal Justice Information Services Division via e-mail at
    cjis_comm@leo.gov or by telephone at (304) 625-4995
    Source: http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2008/docum...ndoffenses.pdf

    So... Is Hate Wrong?

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    No. We can't always help what we feel. A perfectly decent person could be murderous. It happens sometimes, with some sorts of mental illness.

    The FEELING isn't wrong. The potential action that could follow the feeling could be.

    A person who feel murderous, instead of murdering someone, could choose to tell a psychiatric professional. Their feelings of murderousness, then, have hurt no one (assuming the situation is dealt with properly).
    But you assume it's a psychologic problem that they need help with.

    What if someone deemed sane felt murderous because he was replaced by a younger news anchor? You don't have to have a psychological problem to feel murderous.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But you assume it's a psychologic problem that they need help with.

    What if someone deemed sane felt murderous because he was replaced by a younger news anchor? You don't have to have a psychological problem to feel murderous.
    Even if it isn't, it still doesn't matter. What matters is what you do. A feeling inside your own head is not "wrong."

    But I would argue that situation is not severe enough for feelings of murderousness to be considered a psychologically healthy response. I would suspect that person was quite mentally ill indeed.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And if I hate being weak or unhealthy? And if I decide to channel such hatred as fuel for focusing on such goals?
    Weak an unhealthy are symptoms of evil. Don't hate the creation.


    I think not, ecofarm. You state ignorance is implied. My Webster dictionaries do not.
    Well, you can go with websters Mr. QuestioningEverything; however, I think hate is ignorant.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How so?

    What is wrong with extreme dislike?

    What is hate?
    No, I don't think it's wrong. I think hating people is an ignorant thing to do, but I don't think it's wrong.

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    Re: Is Hatred wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Even if it isn't, it still doesn't matter. What matters is what you do. A feeling inside your own head is not "wrong."

    But I would argue that situation is not severe enough for feelings of murderousness to be considered a psychologically healthy response. I would suspect that person was quite mentally ill indeed.
    So to feel wicked/sinful/wrong thoughts of murder etc is mentally ill?

    There are many sane sinful people. Lawyers, lol, as a vague example.

    Mayhaps a new, philosophical thread topic will be born.

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