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Thread: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    The chicken came before the chicken's egg.

    the first chicken most likely came from something else's egg as a slight mutation.
    So conversely the egg which produced the first chicken, came first.
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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Nah, it was the nest. The egg is an egg, a chicken can walk from anywhere but without a nest thee is no place to lay the egg.

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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Methinks the chicken, based on Christianity.
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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    They both appeared simultaneously in a chicken omelet.

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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So conversely the egg which produced the first chicken, came first.
    But the mutation came with the embryo not the actual egg. The egg in which the chicken was born was most likely not a chicken egg, but the egg of its ancestor which birthed the first chicken... then hence from then on every egg a chicken layed was a Chicken-egg.

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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    I always felt dirty having chicken and egg mayonnaise in the same sandwich...

    There's not really supposed to be an answer to this question. It's a philosophical exercise in infinite regression. It's just an approachable way to ask which came first, a cause or an effect (but keep in mind all known causes were effects themselves). Referring to Bibilcal verse to support the chicken, or evolutionary history to point out a kind of egg existed ages before chicken sidesteps the intention of the question.

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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    But the mutation came with the embryo not the actual egg. The egg in which the chicken was born was most likely not a chicken egg, but the egg of its ancestor which birthed the first chicken... then hence from then on every egg a chicken layed was a Chicken-egg.
    Yet the question does not specify that the egg must be a chicken egg.

    Thus, the following:

    If you believe in the religious-based idea of a young earth, wherein god created all animals in one moment (or a succession of moments, I was never too clear on the details), then the chicken came first (at least as I understand the whole idea).

    If you believe in evolution's theory that animals slowly evolved, then the egg (not chicken egg) came first.

    If you believe in some combination of the two…you’re out of luck.


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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Obviously there were many types of eggs before chickens existed, so it's equally obvious that the question refers to the first chicken egg, rather than the first egg of any kind. Therefore the question becomes; how do you define 'chicken egg'? Does it have to be laid by a chicken, or does it just have to have a chicken inside of it? IMHO, an egg with a chicken inside of it is a chicken egg, even if it was laid by another bird. Therefore, the egg came first.
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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Obviously there were many types of eggs before chickens existed, so it's equally obvious that the question refers to the first chicken egg, rather than the first egg of any kind. Therefore the question becomes; how do you define 'chicken egg'? Does it have to be laid by a chicken, or does it just have to have a chicken inside of it? IMHO, an egg with a chicken inside of it is a chicken egg, even if it was laid by another bird. Therefore, the egg came first.
    This position relies on the assumption that the theory of evolution is fact.

    Or at least, so I understand it.
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    Re: Which came first: The Chicken or the Egg?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Obviously there were many types of eggs before chickens existed, so it's equally obvious that the question refers to the first chicken egg, rather than the first egg of any kind. Therefore the question becomes; how do you define 'chicken egg'? Does it have to be laid by a chicken, or does it just have to have a chicken inside of it? IMHO, an egg with a chicken inside of it is a chicken egg, even if it was laid by another bird. Therefore, the egg came first.
    tell me the specific generation that another bird became a chicken, and after you are done doing this, tell me the specific point where a middle aged man became an elderly man. Both are gradual processes with no sudden step or point that marks the transformation.
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