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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    No for the simple fact that the voting system in the US anyways, forces you to vote for repubs

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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    No for the simple fact that the voting system in the US anyways, forces you to vote for repubs
    Really? Then how is it that we have democrats in Congress and Senate and the White House?
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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Really? Then how is it that we have democrats in Congress and Senate and the White House?
    I was replying directly to the OP when I said "you". First past the post voting system creates two party system and pushes people to the middle in order to garner the most votes. The people who "lean" typically will only vote the way they lean, or else their vote becomes useless i.e. people who vote for Ron Paul in the general election.

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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry I can't speak for any other Independent. So excuse me for only speaking for myself and not anyone else. If some other Independent wants to challenge you the same way then that is thier perogative and i'll root them on. But you are the one that made an assertion about a lean that I associate with using generalities. Which means you included me in that list. Sorry if it offends you having to back up your own asserstions when called out on your BS.

    And being an independent is about an overall perspective for me. Not an individual issue's perspective.
    They're all 'over-all perspectives'. Everyone already makes up their own mind, so once again 'independent' doesn't mean anything.

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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    I think independents are gutless. They are neither fish nor fowl, hot nor cold...

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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think independents are gutless. They are neither fish nor fowl, hot nor cold...
    Many independents would actually be pragmatic libertarians, if it wasn't for the fact that we have a first past the post voting system.

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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Yes the should. They should also add: Socialist, Communist, and Fascist.
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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They're all 'over-all perspectives'. Everyone already makes up their own mind, so once again 'independent' doesn't mean anything.
    Only to you and those that think like you.

    Your attitude actually reminds me of school. Each clique had thier own "specialty". But if you were not apart of any particular clique then you were "nothing". Someone to ignore or pick on.
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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Only to you and those that think like you.

    Your attitude actually reminds me of school. Each clique had thier own "specialty". But if you were not apart of any particular clique then you were "nothing". Someone to ignore or pick on.
    The secret is everyone belongs to something, even if only in part, even if they belong to several different groups to varying degrees at the same time. No one belongs to nothing, which is what you would have to be as an independent or unaffiliated, etc. You have to be truly neutral on every conceivable issue.

    So you're either truly neutral, a political coward, or you have various positions, and are thus a lire.

    In reality, the total sum of all the positions and opinions of anyone who is politically engaged lands you on one side or the other of the conservative/liberal left/right plane.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-08-11 at 01:15 AM.

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    Re: Should DP add 'independent conservative' and 'independent liberal'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    In reality, the total sum of all the positions and opinions of anyone who is politically engaged lands you on one side or the other of the conservative/liberal left/right plane.
    The fact that you believe its a plane instead of a grid is the shocking part.

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

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