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    Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    If the host organisms are subject to drug tests......than so should the parasites/Paid Democrat Voters.
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    It is actually a great idea. There is a large faction of people that are on welfare because they can't get a job due to their dependency. Make them get sober and get a job. It isn't societies responsibility to support meth heads and stoners.
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    It is actually a great idea. There is a large faction of people that are on welfare because they can't get a job due to their dependency. Make them get sober and get a job. It isn't societies responsibility to support meth heads and stoners.

    How large is this fraction?

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    If the host organisms are subject to drug tests......than so should the parasites/Paid Democrat Voters.
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    A rather stupid comment.
    But this "idea" should be given consideration..
    Drug use must NOT be a crime, however foolish it may be.
    This Florida governor should discuss this with an addict or two, that is, if his mind is open...this I do not know....

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A rather stupid comment.
    But this "idea" should be given consideration..
    Drug use must NOT be a crime, however foolish it may be.
    This Florida governor should discuss this with an addict or two, that is, if his mind is open...this I do not know....
    If addiction exists, should the government be enabling through monthly funding of said addiction? Would it not be better to simultaneously enact a drug-screening requirement and some sort of work-to-play rehabilitation program for those with addictions?
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    No. Marginalizing and trying to "starve out" addicts just creates more crime and poverty. Half the problem is that we have so few resources for addicts as it is, and the drug war culture makes people afraid to admit they have a problem, on top of the difficulty of dealing with it.

    As offensive as it is to the mentality of people who would rather punish people for the audacity to be human, the exact opposite works much better: harm reduction programs. It increases the rates at which addicts go to rehab, and lowers crime.

    I am not concerned with whether it serves some people's desire for vengeance. I'm only concerned with what works best.

    In addition, a casual pot smoker is not any more an addict or inhibited from functioning than a casual drinker. There is absolutely no reason to discriminate against this sort of drug use (which is already perfectly acceptable in society as long as the drug has some totally arbitrary stamp of government approval). Marijuana lingers in your urine for up to a month, sometimes even longer if you're overweight. It lingers in hair for much longer, unless you shave it. Should someone who smoked a joint last month at their birthday party be thrown off benefit? Seriously?

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    How large is this fraction?
    20% admit to it.

    http://www.eric.ed.gov/PDFS/ED463392.pdf
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Why not?

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A rather stupid comment.
    If the American Worker is subject to drug tests.....and the Democrat Provided Social Teet is funded via theft from said worker......

    .......shouldnt the recipients of the fruits of another's labor be subject to the same test?

    But this "idea" should be given consideration..
    Drug use must NOT be a crime, however foolish it may be.
    This Florida governor should discuss this with an addict or two, that is, if his mind is open...this I do not know....
    It must NOT be a reward either........
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