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Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

Should drug tests be required to get welfare benefits?

  • Yes

    Votes: 39 75.0%

  • No

    Votes: 13 25.0%
  • Total voters
    52
Do the drug addicts receiving welfare cost more than illegal war in the ME, corporate subsidies, bail outs, and government corruption? I doubt that. We have bigger problems. Simply cutting people off from welfare will create more problems than it fixes. It's a bad idea.
 
Can we think realistically about this? Are people aware that a huge portion of people on welfare also use drugs? That something like half the US probably uses drugs, that it is a source of income, that a third of hard currency is involved in drugs. Cutting them off is going to make them get involved in the black economy more aggressively. This is short sighted, draconian, and contrary to a government meant to benefit the people, not criminalize them. This is would be harmful to society.
 
I was in agreement with this, but then realized the failure of it.

Typically the female member of the household applies for benefits and she is less likely to be the drug user.
If all members of the household aren't tested, it could prove to be an exercise in futility.
 
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They should test all of them... as an exercise in nazism.
 
Are you libs aware that the use of Food Stamps is already highly regulated ? That among the things you cannot purchase with them are tobacco and alcoholic beverages ?

But since y'all in such a giving mood, can you get the gubmit to buy me a new car ? Mow my yard for me ? Maybe send over a nice pre-paid prostitute on occasion ?

Need to benefit the people. correct ?

Tribe '84 btw.
 
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Harry Guerrilla said:
That's not true.

It's a check on making sure you actually need state aid.
There is a lot of fraud involved with state entitlements.
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So wait, if I buy 15$ of weed and a little less than a month later apply for welfare I can get booted? I haven't followed the thread too closely but if invasion of privacy and intrusion into life of the common man means anything this is it. Something tells me principles are being tossed to the wind to punish the percieved 'leeches' of society. Or as fox news calls it, the 'takers' not the 'makers'.
 
SE102 said:
So wait, if I buy 15$ of weed and a little less than a month later apply for welfare I can get booted? I haven't followed the thread too closely but if invasion of privacy and intrusion into life of the common man means anything this is it. Something tells me principles are being tossed to the wind to punish the percieved 'leeches' of society. Or as fox news calls it, the 'takers' not the 'makers'.
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I don't even believe in most of the programs in the first place.

But if they do exist, they should be for the truly needy, not those who would rather not pay for groceries and medical care for their kids.
Most of the users aren't just buying $15 a month worth of weed.
 
Most of the users aren't just buying $15 a month worth of weed.
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Pfft if they're smart and productive they're selling it and turning over a profit.

But if they do exist, they should be for the truly needy, not those who would rather not pay for groceries and medical care for their kids.
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Next time a large swiping spiteful generalization of welfare recipients is made, Im going to that persons house and crapping on their windshield. Somehow they neglect their kids and with-hold their medical care and food too. Unless we got some hard numbers here, Im calling bull**** and fox new brainwashing on the takers and makers analogy.
 
SE102 said:
Pfft if they're smart and productive they're selling it and turning over a profit.
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I know a guy just like that. :lol:

SE102 said:
Next time a large swiping spiteful generalization of welfare recipients is made, Im going to that persons house and crapping on their windshield. Somehow they neglect their kids and with-hold their medical care and food too. Unless we got some hard numbers here, Im calling bull**** and fox new brainwashing on the takers and makers analogy.
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I don't watch Fox news, I'm going by my own true to life personal experience.
Of the people I know, who are on state entitlements, drink alcohol daily, smoke weed daily, participate in state gambling daily.

The system is incredibly easy to defraud.
 
Kandahar said:
According to the article, "although almost 20% of welfare recipients report recent use of some illicit drug during the year, only a small minority satisfy the criteria for drug or alcohol dependence." So that's a bit misleading; is the guy who smoked a joint 6 months ago really in the same category as a meth addict? And I'd be curious to know how that 20% figure compares with the population as a whole...that doesn't really sound that high to me.

In any case, I fail to see how taking away the benefits from drug addicts will help the situation. You need to resolve the underlying problem (the addiction) before you can address the symptom (the lack of a job). A better approach would be to help addicts get treatment for their problem so that they can get their life in order.
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Yeah, Cause thats what we need.

Money wasted on forced drug "treatment" programs that don't work if the person doesn't want help....
Not all drug abusers actually want help. I'd wager that number to be "most". Those who do want help know there are programs out there.
 
SE102 said:
So wait, if I buy 15$ of weed and a little less than a month later apply for welfare I can get booted? I haven't followed the thread too closely but if invasion of privacy and intrusion into life of the common man means anything this is it. Something tells me principles are being tossed to the wind to punish the percieved 'leeches' of society. Or as fox news calls it, the 'takers' not the 'makers'.
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Maybe you should have saved that 15 bucks....
 
SE102 said:
So wait, if I buy 15$ of weed and a little less than a month later apply for welfare I can get booted? I haven't followed the thread too closely but if invasion of privacy and intrusion into life of the common man means anything this is it. Something tells me principles are being tossed to the wind to punish the percieved 'leeches' of society. Or as fox news calls it, the 'takers' not the 'makers'.
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Dude, where can I buy weed for $15? :lamo Just kidding, of course.
 
It'd better be some danged good stuff for more than 15 a gram lol. :ninja: not that I have ever done that tho.
 
jamesrage said:
The fact it would be chump change means that cost is non-issue when it comes to piss testing welfare recipients.
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It's chump change when compared to a billion. If you spend millions to save thousands, then it is no longer "chump change".
 
Kandahar said:
And how is that dependence problem going to be solved by yanking their benefits out from them? Do you think that drug addicts are rational actors who are governed by the invisible hand of the market? No! They are looking for their next fix, and if you take away their money without also taking away their addiction, the ones who are truly addicted will turn to crime to finance their habit. If you're really concerned about drug addicts on welfare, then it would make more sense to get them treatment than to cut them off. They aren't going to be able to keep a job as long as they're addicted anyway.
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Who cares about welfare scum drugs addicts as they should all die don't ya know?:roll::roll: (sarcasm)
 
Ikari said:
Prove this statement. Prove that the majority of welfare recipients are selling drugs, driving two cars, working under the table, etc. That or don't make stupid comments that cannot be supported by reality.
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Don't forget they all dine on steak and lobster:roll::roll::2razz:

Honestly some folks seem to think folks living in the ghetto and on welfare are living high off the hog.. Far from it. Very far.
 
TheGreatSandeno said:
The 20% admits to using illicit drugs during the year.

The very next sentence states that only a small minority satisfy the criteria for dependency.
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Who admits to dependency...
 
earthworm said:
A rather stupid comment.
But this "idea" should be given consideration..
Drug use must NOT be a crime, however foolish it may be.
This Florida governor should discuss this with an addict or two, that is, if his mind is open...this I do not know....
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Even if drug use was legal, it's perfectly valid to require that people claiming poverty and begging at the public's door demonsrate that they are not being foolish with money. If they can't afford food, they shouldn't be spendin money on drugs. If they're spending their money on drugs, they don't need the taxpayer's money to buy food.
 
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