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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Are you libs aware that the use of Food Stamps is already highly regulated ? That among the things you cannot purchase with them are tobacco and alcoholic beverages ?

    But since y'all in such a giving mood, can you get the gubmit to buy me a new car ? Mow my yard for me ? Maybe send over a nice pre-paid prostitute on occasion ?

    Need to benefit the people. correct ?

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's not true.

    It's a check on making sure you actually need state aid.
    There is a lot of fraud involved with state entitlements.
    So wait, if I buy 15$ of weed and a little less than a month later apply for welfare I can get booted? I haven't followed the thread too closely but if invasion of privacy and intrusion into life of the common man means anything this is it. Something tells me principles are being tossed to the wind to punish the percieved 'leeches' of society. Or as fox news calls it, the 'takers' not the 'makers'.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Tribe '84 btw.
    I think were a couple brackets higher in the college foodchain nowadays...

    teehee

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    So wait, if I buy 15$ of weed and a little less than a month later apply for welfare I can get booted? I haven't followed the thread too closely but if invasion of privacy and intrusion into life of the common man means anything this is it. Something tells me principles are being tossed to the wind to punish the percieved 'leeches' of society. Or as fox news calls it, the 'takers' not the 'makers'.
    I don't even believe in most of the programs in the first place.

    But if they do exist, they should be for the truly needy, not those who would rather not pay for groceries and medical care for their kids.
    Most of the users aren't just buying $15 a month worth of weed.
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Most of the users aren't just buying $15 a month worth of weed.
    Pfft if they're smart and productive they're selling it and turning over a profit.

    But if they do exist, they should be for the truly needy, not those who would rather not pay for groceries and medical care for their kids.
    Next time a large swiping spiteful generalization of welfare recipients is made, Im going to that persons house and crapping on their windshield. Somehow they neglect their kids and with-hold their medical care and food too. Unless we got some hard numbers here, Im calling bull**** and fox new brainwashing on the takers and makers analogy.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Pfft if they're smart and productive they're selling it and turning over a profit.
    I know a guy just like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Next time a large swiping spiteful generalization of welfare recipients is made, Im going to that persons house and crapping on their windshield. Somehow they neglect their kids and with-hold their medical care and food too. Unless we got some hard numbers here, Im calling bull**** and fox new brainwashing on the takers and makers analogy.
    I don't watch Fox news, I'm going by my own true to life personal experience.
    Of the people I know, who are on state entitlements, drink alcohol daily, smoke weed daily, participate in state gambling daily.

    The system is incredibly easy to defraud.
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    I'm going by my own true to life personal experience.
    I need numbaz.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    According to the article, "although almost 20% of welfare recipients report recent use of some illicit drug during the year, only a small minority satisfy the criteria for drug or alcohol dependence." So that's a bit misleading; is the guy who smoked a joint 6 months ago really in the same category as a meth addict? And I'd be curious to know how that 20% figure compares with the population as a whole...that doesn't really sound that high to me.

    In any case, I fail to see how taking away the benefits from drug addicts will help the situation. You need to resolve the underlying problem (the addiction) before you can address the symptom (the lack of a job). A better approach would be to help addicts get treatment for their problem so that they can get their life in order.
    Yeah, Cause thats what we need.

    Money wasted on forced drug "treatment" programs that don't work if the person doesn't want help....
    Not all drug abusers actually want help. I'd wager that number to be "most". Those who do want help know there are programs out there.
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    So wait, if I buy 15$ of weed and a little less than a month later apply for welfare I can get booted? I haven't followed the thread too closely but if invasion of privacy and intrusion into life of the common man means anything this is it. Something tells me principles are being tossed to the wind to punish the percieved 'leeches' of society. Or as fox news calls it, the 'takers' not the 'makers'.
    Maybe you should have saved that 15 bucks....
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Maybe you should have saved that 15 bucks....
    I could make alot of value judgements about american society but I dont.

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