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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I know you do.

    That's the easiest way to identify a liberal - they think "right" and "privilege" are interchangeable.
    If you call living in poverty but working living in privilege then you are seriously mistaken!!

    Which happens to be the easiest way to identify a conservative.. They think that if your working your rich and privileged.. Thanks to Bush, there are more people living in poverty than ever!!
    Last edited by DemonMyst; 06-06-11 at 07:40 PM.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    So what about the handicapped and those less fortunate?? Do conservatives ever consider them when discussing rights??
    As soon as income becomes a sex or race, it will be about civil right.
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
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    Don't kid yourself, both the Republicans and Deomcrats stick to stupid government.
    As to what I did not include, you are completely wrong with everything Constitutional that you quoted. I think you just make stuff up and post it willy-nilly.

    Those programs that tend to make folks wards-of-the-state, and which have been so overwhelmingly large, and underfunded, such as Social Security and Medicare, are hugely Democrat born-and-bred.

    Don't kid yourself.

    Add to it Obamacare.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    The free market tanks and you want to cut welfare. The usual, 'starve the poor' attitude.
    The free market was mugged by big government.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Prove this statement. Prove that the majority of welfare recipients are selling drugs, driving two cars, working under the table, etc. That or don't make stupid comments that cannot be supported by reality.
    Seeing is believing and I see it everyday. The people in question don't exactly keep records or answer to the government. That said the burden of proof is on you, prove that it is wrong.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    So what about the handicapped and those less fortunate?? Do conservatives ever consider them when discussing rights??
    What about them? Not at all sure how your question is related to what I said and the dicussion related to same.

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    As to what I did not include, you are completely wrong with everything Constitutional that you quoted. I think you just make stuff up and post it willy-nilly.

    Those programs that tend to make folks wards-of-the-state, and which have been so overwhelmingly large, and underfunded, such as Social Security and Medicare, are hugely Democrat born-and-bred.

    Don't kid yourself.

    Add to it Obamacare.
    "Blah blah blah, I can't prove my point or even cite the Constitution, but I'm going to lie my ass off in order to try to make a partisan point".
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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Seeing is believing and I see it everyday. The people in question don't exactly keep records or answer to the government. That said the burden of proof is on you, prove that it is wrong.
    No, you said that the majority of welfare recipients are selling drugs, driving two cars, working under the table, etc. That was YOU not me. Prove your point or admit you're a liar. Those are your choices.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, you said that the majority of welfare recipients are selling drugs, driving two cars, working under the table, etc. That was YOU not me. Prove your point or admit you're a liar. Those are your choices.
    You can't prove me wrong, but I can do simple searches that prove my points all day long. I posted just two simple google searches I* suppose I could define it even more but why bother , now your turn prove me wrong. Look I know how the game works and I know how they play the system. I see it and deal with it and even acquainted with few recipients, the government is being fleeced at our expense.
    welfare reciepent to for a living - Google Search
    welfare reciepent to for a living - Google Search

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    Re: Should Drug Tests Be Required to Get Welfare Benefits?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst
    If you call living in poverty but working living in privilege then you are seriously mistaken!!

    Which happens to be the easiest way to identify a conservative.. They think that if your working your rich and privileged.. Thanks to Bush, there are more people living in poverty than ever!!
    1. Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" if you wish to be taken seriously.

    2. You have the "right" to live in poverty if you so choose. It's very easy to live in poverty if that is what you really want. You have no "right" to work though. You have a "right" to apply for a job, and then hope that an employer grants you the "privilege" of exchanging your labor for a paycheck. There is no grey area in this.

    3. Working = rich and privileged? What planet are you on? Working at Taco Bell certainly does not qualify as rich, but they should be privileged to have this job if their skill set is most aptly applied to that job. They have no right to that job because they cannot walk into a Taco Bell and demand compensation for their labor when it is not desired. That is what a right is.

    4. Blaming Bush for everything, especially stuff like this, ensures that you never even come close to having a legitimate argument for any political discussion.

    Seriously, game over. Insert quarter and try again. Try not to come across as 13 years old in the future, too.

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