- Colonel Paul YinglingNobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.
Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.
All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
I have to agree with Disgsbe on this issues, I think 30% of the time Im taking shots but its more to make people think "hey there's two sides" to just about everything and typically you have to meet in the middle.
But I am drawn to hi profile shot taking threads a lot, Equal rights for gays, abortions, death penalty and war threads.
And what I am EXTREMELY guilty of, depending on the issue or how they do it, is when a shot is taken at me I love to shoot back. Its fun because like I said Im usually in a high profile thread and my stance is typically in the middle or allows everyone to do what they want.
But there have been many threads where I just want info or thanked people for their opposing point of view or just wanted arguments against the logic I already have to just see if there's something I'm missing. Its interesting, I realize my experiences arent yours and my walk of life isn't yours, many peoples situations are extremely different and I think people forget that all the time. See the internet thread, while I didn't agree with the OP about civil rights I found it hilarious that a couple people assume EVERYBODY can get internet access because you cna just go to a cyber cafe? Thats just not reality. Oh well.
I like it here and have encountered many people that seem great, some agree with my views and some do not, and then there are people here strictly for trolling or entertainment then there are people here that are totally what they dont like, partisan hacks, its just like real life
Since I was written up for return fire ("You should have ignored him!") I am very careful with how I respond. It's like yes, I've been slimed. But I'll be damned if I'll stoop to their level. And even sometimes I'll say "**** that ****. Let the stooping begin." Just not anywhere near as often as I did on my first run through DP.
I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
I think that I'm a bit like Centrist77 in that I tend to hover around hot topics, too. I think that for some threads related to things like abortion, etc...they can stir emotional responses. I have no doubt that I push buttons, but I consciously try not insult, slam, return-volley slams. I seriously try not to invoke or project hate. Rhetoric...hmmm, that can be a bit subject in terms of self-identification. I suspect a lot of the times...in the heat of arguments that it might be a tiny bit impossible not to engage in rhetoric.
So, I'm not sure where my percentage might be in all honesty. If I were guessing I would say between 75 and 85% of my post wouldn't get busted. After all, I'm not the "Virgin Removable Mind".
Last edited by Removable Mind; 06-04-11 at 02:12 PM.