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What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

What do you think about the Food Plate?

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BDBoop said:
Then they need to start, because it is a huge (no pun intended) issue in America today.
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Simply stop federal subisidies and controls on health care and let the fat people pay their own medical bills.

It's their problem if they die early.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Untrue. Or else many advertisers wouldn't bother.
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Advertisers don't waste a lot of time on sublimal messaging. They sell in-yo-face messaging.

I dunno, however small the effect is, that effect spread out over 300 million people might mean something.
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Won't.

The old food pyramid contains the same information in a appealing triangular format, and no one paid it any mind. Now the triangles are part of a pie chart.

What do people do with pies? They eat them.

The subliminal message from our "shelf-butt" First Lady is clearly "eat more pie".
 
Mayor Snorkum said:
Advertisers don't waste a lot of time on sublimal messaging. They sell in-yo-face messaging.
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I guess the 2 million Michelle Obama is spending on this pie chart is to make it in your face as well.

Won't.

The old food pyramid contains the same information in a appealing triangular format, and no one paid it any mind. Now the triangles are part of a pie chart.

What do people do with pies? They eat them.

The subliminal message from our "shelf-butt" First Lady is clearly "eat more pie".
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Quoted for humor and nothing else.

Edit: fwiw I didn't find the food pyramid particularly appealing, visually or substantively.
 
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Mayor Snorkum said:
Advertisers don't waste a lot of time on sublimal messaging. They sell in-yo-face messaging.
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10 Taco Bell
Demolition Man


One entire scene revolves around Sandra Bullock’s character explaining to Sylvester Stallone’s unfrozen cop from the 90s that Taco Bell won the franchise wars and “now all restaurants are Taco Bells.” They then proceed to a fancy, sit down place where no Mexican food is present at all. It has nothing to do with the plot of the movie and any restaurant name could have been used. I guess Taco Bell was the highest bidder.

9 Apple Computer
Mission:Impossible and Independence Day


In the mid 90s, Apple Computer (now Apple, Inc.) was facing a crisis. Very few people were buying their computers and Apple needed to get in the public eye in a positive way. So, in 1996, they put their computers on the silver screen in, not one, but two blockbuster movies. In M:I, Tom Cruise uses a PowerBook to communicate with the bad guy (and girl) and ultimately save the day (and his reputation). In ID:4, Jeff Goldblum uses a PowerBook to plant a deadly computer virus in the attacking aliens’ mothership. I even remember an Apple commercial that tied in with Mission:Impossible.
8 Mercedes Benz
The Lost World: Jurassic Park


The vehicles that Jeff Goldblum and team use while exploring Site B were a new Mercedes Benz SUV. Steven Spielberg took great care to frame a shot that showed the famous Benz logo up close. Again, a commercial by Mercedes was shown on television to capitalize on this movie placement.
7 Dodge
Twister


Like #8 this is another vehicle placement. What makes it so bad is that Dodge, I think, hurt themselves. The good guys all have old beat up clunkers, except for Bill Paxton’s character, who drives a brand new Dodge Ram pick-up. But the bad guys, led by Carey Elwes’ character, all drive black Dodge mini-vans. Of course, one of them gets impaled by a tornado thrown pole and then gets tossed around and eventually blown up by said tornado.
6 FedEx
Cast Away


In the DVD commentary, the director, Robert Zemeckis, said they needed a “real” company to be in this movie for authenticity. But I for one can’t look at a FedEx shipping box without thinking about two things: That weird angel drawing and “Wilson! Wiiilllsooonn!”

5 Mello Yello
Days of Thunder


This represents a legitimate practice; advertisers sponsoring a NASCAR racing team and plastering their logo all over the car and driver. However, after seeing this movie, every time I see a Mello Yello, I think about Tom Cruise and that black car driving through the wreckage.
4 The Miami Dolphins
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective


I mention this one because the National Football League is extremely particular about the fictional use of any of its franchises or logos in movies and television. Most movies that concern a professional football team use a fictional one. It’s surprising then that the Miami Dolphins were in this movie at all.
3 Subway
Happy Gilmore


Like #5 this represents a legitimate practice; a professional athlete doing product endorsements. But like #10, this one could have gone to any product. Subway just happened to win the bidding war. This one is also noticeable because in subsequent airings on cable and network television, the Subway t-shirt that Adam Sandler wears in parts of the movie has its logo blurred out.
2 Pepsi
Back to the Future


The cola wars were going on hot and heavy in 1985 when the first installment of Back to the Future premiered. Pepsi was winning and in order to capitalize on that momentum they were featured heavily in this movie. There’s even a scene where Michael J. Fox’s character of Marty McFly goes into the 1955 cafe and orders a Pepsi Free, Pepsi’s diet drink. The soda jerk tells him if he wants a Pepsi he’s gonna have to pay for it. In Part 2, Marty travels to 2015. Doc Brown tells him to go to the Cafe 80s and order a Pepsi. He gives him a $50 bill to pay for it.
1 Reese’s Pieces
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial


This is the one that really started it all. Although product placement had been around before 1981, this movie put the practice into overdrive. No one will ever forget E.T. croaking out the words “Reese’s pieces” as he happily munches his way down the trail that Elliot has left for him. Interestingly, Spielberg wanted to originally use M&Ms, but couldn’t secure the rights. Hershey’s, who own Reese’s, stepped up and the rest is history.
 
BDBoop said:
Then they need to start, because it is a huge (no pun intended) issue in America today.
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Its a cultural issue. Cultural issues aren't solved by pretty pictures and lecturing.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Hence the education portion of the spending.
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Tell me why education would work? Do you honestly think people need education on how to eat healthy?
 
A cheap 2 million dollar waste of time that will make the First Lady feel good and will have a few marginal studies showing minor impact.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Some educational campaigns work, others don't.

And yes, many people do.
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No they don't. Even the stupidest among us knows that eating a plate full of lean meats and veggies is better for your health than a plate full of nachos.
 
Mellie said:
No they don't. Even the stupidest among us knows that eating a plate full of lean meats and veggies is better for your health than a plate full of nachos.
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That's not all that consists of knowing how to eat healthy.

I'm talking about things like knowing how to read nutrition facts, and knowing what your daily limits should be, etc. A lot of people are simply ignorant on these things.
 
StillBallin75 said:
That's not all that consists of knowing how to eat healthy.

I'm talking about things like knowing how to read nutrition facts, and knowing what your daily limits should be, etc. A lot of people are simply ignorant on these things.
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I'm sorry, but I think most everyone knows how to read a nutrition label. Some just don't want to.
 
Mellie said:
I'm sorry, but I think most everyone knows how to read a nutrition label. Some just don't want to.
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Oh, I'm sure people know how to read it. But not everyone knows how to use that information or precisely what it means.
 
So?? Basically.. Conservatives are against it because it helps educate children, and we all know that is bad.. Heaven forbid if kids grow up to be smarter than conservatives.. The other issue is.. If we teach kids how to have a good diet, and exercise, they can't complain about the cost of obesity and the effects to healthcare.. We simply can't give them one less thing to complain about.. They might just have to make something up.. Like Death panels or something..

Liberals?? Well.. They are mostly for it.. Although, I am not seeing where the cost is comming from?? In either case.. I think the health of our kids is worth it.. It might actually pay for itself.. Healthier kids won't need to go to the doctor as much..
 
Mellie said:
Well, there's only so many hours in a week for school. Not only do you have PE, but you have art, music, library and sometimes health class or some sort of drug-free class that we usually call "specials". There's only so much time for the specials each week. If you had PE every day along with another special it starts to eat away at time for math, reading and science.
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Isn't a school day 7 hours( 8AM-3:30PM in many places) Take an hour off for lunch and Breakfast is usually served before the start of the school day. Thats at least six one hour classes or about eight 45 minute classes or about seven 50 minute classes. Math, reading and science would only take half a school day assuming the classes are an hour long. They can fit a hour of PE a day and still have two hours left for extracurricular/non-essential classes. Surely kids do not need a whole hour for Mr Mackey to say drug are bad umkay, health classes could be combined with science class.The library should be a part of reading class anyways not its own separate class. Art and music classes are not necessities,they do need to be taught every day if at all.

Schools shouldn't have to do it all. Parents need to be responsible for continuing what they are learning at school whether it be multiplication or fitness.
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But the way the food nazis act Evil fast food places just force poor defenseless parents and their kids to eat their burgers and tacos and sit at home and watch tv and that is why they must ban happy meal toys and transfat and possibly restrict fast food commercials. So wouldn't 45-60 minutes a day of PE just like most schools used to do back then help curb this obesity epidemic?


If you consider the fact that people two or three generations ago did not have diet food, low calorie food, vegetable oil,they cooked everything in lard and other animal fat or butter, ate organ meats and a whole bunch of other food that is not healthy. But yet there was no obesity epidemic back then.So obviously the problem is not what is eaten but the fact kids today are not very mobile. You can't ban video games or tv or even fast food. You can't make a law demanding that parents force Little Timmy and Suzie to take their fat asses outside and go ride bikes with their friends and even if you could there would always be a home where the parent is at work, a parent that does not give a **** and parents might be too scared to let their kids play outside. However since school is mandatory and most kids go to public schools you can mandate that kids going to schools must have daily PE.
 
DemonMyst said:
So?? Basically.. Conservatives are against it because it helps educate children, and we all know that is bad.. Heaven forbid if kids grow up to be smarter than conservatives.. The other issue is.. If we teach kids how to have a good diet, and exercise, they can't complain about the cost of obesity and the effects to healthcare.. We simply can't give them one less thing to complain about.. They might just have to make something up.. Like Death panels or something..

Liberals?? Well.. They are mostly for it.. Although, I am not seeing where the cost is comming from?? In either case.. I think the health of our kids is worth it.. It might actually pay for itself.. Healthier kids won't need to go to the doctor as much..
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I think conservatives are mostly arguing from the perspective of the quote that happens to be in my sig at the moment (fancy that, I can never work my quotes into a conversation).
 
Our school day is 6.5 hours. They have one hour for lunch/recess and 45 minutes for a special. If you add PE everyday including the other special, that's 2.5 hours of time not in the classroom. You need 1.5 hours for reading, 1 hour for math, 1 hour for science & social studies and at least 45 min. for writing.

But wait! There's more!

Then you have to take into account the kids that leave class for special services like special ed, speech, occupational therapy, Title One, other therapy, etc. During that time many schools have a time when the teacher's job is to focus on certain aspects of subjects that need to be retaught. For instance, you might have a group of kids that still don't understand fractions. That's the time the teacher would take them aside and help them while the other kids are working on other things. At my school we're also required to do character education for 30 minutes once a week. Oh! How could I forget.... then there's the constant, on-going assessments of each individual child in reading, math and writing. These tests take FOR-E-VER to administer since it has to be done individually. And this is done every 7 days.

Then you have the bathroom breaks, milk breaks, another recess (in some cases), special assemblies, intercom interruptions, etc. etc. etc.

Many teachers I know barely have time to fit everything in everyday as it is. There HAS to be parent involvement in helping kids with non-academic areas. Schools cannot and should not do everything.

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liblady said:
not really. if it helps educate people, we are possibly saving money. i can't work up any outrage over this.
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At $14 Trillion and climbing.........let us know when the outrage starts......
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If it potentially stops 50 people from becoming obese, the lifetime savings in healthcare on them alone may make up for the 2 million this cost.
 
SE102 said:
If it potentially stops 50 people from becoming obese, the lifetime savings in healthcare on them alone may make up for the 2 million this cost.
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Yes of course........."If it helps one person"......"If it saves one life"........

........then its totally worth bankrupting our grandchildren and destroying this country.
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Mellie said:
Our school day is 6.5 hours. They have one hour for lunch/recess and 45 minutes for a special. If you add PE everyday including the other special, that's 2.5 hours of time not in the classroom. You need 1.5 hours for reading, 1 hour for math, 1 hour for science & social studies and at least 45 min. for writing.

But wait! There's more!

Then you have to take into account the kids that leave class for special services like special ed, speech, occupational therapy, Title One, other therapy, etc. During that time many schools have a time when the teacher's job is to focus on certain aspects of subjects that need to be retaught. For instance, you might have a group of kids that still don't understand fractions. That's the time the teacher would take them aside and help them while the other kids are working on other things. At my school we're also required to do character education for 30 minutes once a week. Oh! How could I forget.... then there's the constant, on-going assessments of each individual child in reading, math and writing. These tests take FOR-E-VER to administer since it has to be done individually. And this is done every 7 days.

Then you have the bathroom breaks, milk breaks, another recess (in some cases), special assemblies, intercom interruptions, etc. etc. etc.

Many teachers I know barely have time to fit everything in everyday as it is. There HAS to be parent involvement in helping kids with non-academic areas. Schools cannot and should not do everything.

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Are you referring to elementary school? 1.5 hours for reading?
 
STOP EATING SO MUCH YOU FAT LIBERAL SLOBS!

Please send payment to my paypal account. And your welcome! I just saved your life..........
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You dont get it, the health savings from reducing the obesity in only a few people across their whole lives off-sets the cost of the food plate. Please respond with an unrelated inflammatory statement now.
 
Badmutha said:
Yes of course........."If it helps one person"......"If it saves one life"........

........then its totally worth bankrupting our grandchildren and destroying this country.
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Yeah, that's not what he said. We're going to be bankrupted by obesity if we don't get this country turned around. Nothing to do with "if it saves one life." EVERYTHING to do with the avalanche we're facing.
 
Badmutha said:
STOP EATING SO MUCH YOU FAT LIBERAL SLOBS!

Please send payment to my paypal account. And your welcome! I just saved your life..........
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I think between your posts and your sig, it's pretty clear what your "undisclosed" actually is.
 
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