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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I haven't seen the details yet, but hopefully it's an improvement from the Food Pyramid. The Food Pyramid was based on which lobbyist groups were the most influential, rather than which diet is the healthiest. There is no WAY that people should eat as much meat or dairy products as the Food Pyramid said that they should.
    Actually the food pyramid suggested way more "grains" than it should have. All that carbohydrate in the diet is fine if you are an endurance athlete or extremely active person. For the average sedentary American, the carbohydrate suggested levels are far to high, leading to obesity and diabetes.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Actually the food pyramid suggested way more "grains" than it should have. All that carbohydrate in the diet is fine if you are an endurance athlete or extremely active person. For the average sedentary American, the carbohydrate suggested levels are far to high, leading to obesity and diabetes.
    Yeah. I think he was thinking the previous version, the 4 basic food groups. We were taught equal parts meet, cereal, vegetables and dairy.

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Actually the food pyramid suggested way more "grains" than it should have. All that carbohydrate in the diet is fine if you are an endurance athlete or extremely active person. For the average sedentary American, the carbohydrate suggested levels are far to high, leading to obesity and diabetes.
    Carbs should still make up the highest percentage of macronutrients for the average person. The pcf ration for a sedentary should be something like 13/65/22

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Carbs should still make up the highest percentage of macronutrients for the average person. The pcf ration for a sedentary should be something like 13/65/22
    There is research coming out with regards that is downplaying the role of carbs in the diet. Not saying that we shouldn't, or cannot eat carbs. We still need them. But as the pyramid above suggests, 6-11 servings is a lot of carb. When we think of what is used to fatten cattle, are they drinking milk and eating meat? No, they are being fed grain. Your body is going to store more fat, because its not as quick of an energy source as carbohydrate, the higher your blood sugar levels are. The body will use the glycogen available before it asks the body to use fats and proteins as a fuel for energy.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Ah, I'm guessing the research is included. But nutrition has been researched out the wazoo. Why do we need to keep reinventing the wheel? More fruits and veggies, less sugars and starches. Take a vitamin daily. It's not rocket surgery.
    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    There is research coming out with regards that is downplaying the role of carbs in the diet. Not saying that we shouldn't, or cannot eat carbs. We still need them. But as the pyramid above suggests, 6-11 servings is a lot of carb. When we think of what is used to fatten cattle, are they drinking milk and eating meat? No, they are being fed grain. Your body is going to store more fat, because its not as quick of an energy source as carbohydrate, the higher your blood sugar levels are. The body will use the glycogen available before it asks the body to use fats and proteins as a fuel for energy.
    Any more questions Mellie? You still going to replicate all this in class with some construction paper and glue?
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    There is research coming out with regards that is downplaying the role of carbs in the diet. Not saying that we shouldn't, or cannot eat carbs. We still need them. But as the pyramid above suggests, 6-11 servings is a lot of carb. When we think of what is used to fatten cattle, are they drinking milk and eating meat? No, they are being fed grain. Your body is going to store more fat, because its not as quick of an energy source as carbohydrate, the higher your blood sugar levels are. The body will use the glycogen available before it asks the body to use fats and proteins as a fuel for energy.
    Not necessarily. Whole grain pasta, brown rice, etc, is not going to raise your blood sugar levels that high. There is a difference between simple carbs, which you seem to be thinking are all carbs, and complex carbs, which is what the majority of that 65 percent should be (about a 55 to 10 ratio). Simple carbs (also called simple sugars) will cause a spike in blood sugar, followed by insulin release from the pancreas, which = fat storage. If you are taking in your maintenance level of calories daily, you are not going to store any more fat regardless of whether you are eating carbs or fats or proteins. Low carb diets have been thrown out a long time ago and the weight loss people see on them has been shown to be nothing more than due to caloric restriction of low carb diets.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    According to the following article a version of the pyramid was released in 2005. Hmmm, who was president then? *scratches head*

    Farewell, Food Pyramid; Meet Your New $2 Million Replacement, a Plate

    A revised pyramid, MyPyramid, was released in 2005, but designed in such a way that whatever nutritional information it was to communicate was rendered almost useless:

    [MyPyramid] turned the old hierarchy on its side, with vertical brightly colored strips standing in for the different food groups. It also showed a stick figure running up the side to emphasize the need for exercise.



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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    It actually better than the food pyramid.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    From pb's link:

    This new logo, which cost about $2 million to develop and promote, is meant to educate Americans about new federal dietary guidelines released in January.
    So Mellie, you going to develop and promote something like this in your classroom with a paper plate and construction paper for 2 cents? That was your claim after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    You're right. They don't. That's why we have teachers like myself who could create that $2 million Food Plate with a 2 cent paper plate and some construction paper.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Not necessarily. Whole grain pasta, brown rice, etc, is not going to raise your blood sugar levels that high. There is a difference between simple carbs, which you seem to be thinking are all carbs, and complex carbs, which is what the majority of that 65 percent should be (about a 55 to 10 ratio). Simple carbs (also called simple sugars) will cause a spike in blood sugar, followed by insulin release from the pancreas, which = fat storage. If you are taking in your maintenance level of calories daily, you are not going to store any more fat regardless of whether you are eating carbs or fats or proteins. Low carb diets have been thrown out a long time ago and the weight loss people see on them has been shown to be nothing more than due to caloric restriction of low carb diets.
    I'm not talking about "low carb diets". Diets are always fads that take a good idea and stretch it out to an extreme to try and sell "quick weight loss". And I know people that supposedly "follow" low carb diets, which they turn into "no-carb diets" afraid that any carb will make them fat, and then they fall off and gorge. All carbs are eventually broken down to their simplest form, which is going to eventually be glucose. Simple sugars cause a spike because of how little work needs to be done to break them down. But when you think about it in a chronic sense, meaning over the course of years, having a high carb diet is going to increase your CBG levels, and result in obesity and/or type II diabetes (if sednetary). Glycemic indexes are a better determinant of what kind of carbs you should eat, rather than just thinking bread is better than sugar. It's all eventually sugar. When you see massively obese people, they didn't get that way on steak, chicken, eggs, etc...They likely got that way via massive amounts of carbs across the spectrum. French fries, soda, cereal, pasta, etc....And then they compound the problem by their cells becoming insulin resistant because so much insulin is released all the time.
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