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Thread: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's not all that consists of knowing how to eat healthy.

    I'm talking about things like knowing how to read nutrition facts, and knowing what your daily limits should be, etc. A lot of people are simply ignorant on these things.
    I'm sorry, but I think most everyone knows how to read a nutrition label. Some just don't want to.


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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I'm sorry, but I think most everyone knows how to read a nutrition label. Some just don't want to.
    Oh, I'm sure people know how to read it. But not everyone knows how to use that information or precisely what it means.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    So?? Basically.. Conservatives are against it because it helps educate children, and we all know that is bad.. Heaven forbid if kids grow up to be smarter than conservatives.. The other issue is.. If we teach kids how to have a good diet, and exercise, they can't complain about the cost of obesity and the effects to healthcare.. We simply can't give them one less thing to complain about.. They might just have to make something up.. Like Death panels or something..

    Liberals?? Well.. They are mostly for it.. Although, I am not seeing where the cost is comming from?? In either case.. I think the health of our kids is worth it.. It might actually pay for itself.. Healthier kids won't need to go to the doctor as much..

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Well, there's only so many hours in a week for school. Not only do you have PE, but you have art, music, library and sometimes health class or some sort of drug-free class that we usually call "specials". There's only so much time for the specials each week. If you had PE every day along with another special it starts to eat away at time for math, reading and science.
    Isn't a school day 7 hours( 8AM-3:30PM in many places) Take an hour off for lunch and Breakfast is usually served before the start of the school day. Thats at least six one hour classes or about eight 45 minute classes or about seven 50 minute classes. Math, reading and science would only take half a school day assuming the classes are an hour long. They can fit a hour of PE a day and still have two hours left for extracurricular/non-essential classes. Surely kids do not need a whole hour for Mr Mackey to say drug are bad umkay, health classes could be combined with science class.The library should be a part of reading class anyways not its own separate class. Art and music classes are not necessities,they do need to be taught every day if at all.

    Schools shouldn't have to do it all. Parents need to be responsible for continuing what they are learning at school whether it be multiplication or fitness.

    But the way the food nazis act Evil fast food places just force poor defenseless parents and their kids to eat their burgers and tacos and sit at home and watch tv and that is why they must ban happy meal toys and transfat and possibly restrict fast food commercials. So wouldn't 45-60 minutes a day of PE just like most schools used to do back then help curb this obesity epidemic?


    If you consider the fact that people two or three generations ago did not have diet food, low calorie food, vegetable oil,they cooked everything in lard and other animal fat or butter, ate organ meats and a whole bunch of other food that is not healthy. But yet there was no obesity epidemic back then.So obviously the problem is not what is eaten but the fact kids today are not very mobile. You can't ban video games or tv or even fast food. You can't make a law demanding that parents force Little Timmy and Suzie to take their fat asses outside and go ride bikes with their friends and even if you could there would always be a home where the parent is at work, a parent that does not give a **** and parents might be too scared to let their kids play outside. However since school is mandatory and most kids go to public schools you can mandate that kids going to schools must have daily PE.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    So?? Basically.. Conservatives are against it because it helps educate children, and we all know that is bad.. Heaven forbid if kids grow up to be smarter than conservatives.. The other issue is.. If we teach kids how to have a good diet, and exercise, they can't complain about the cost of obesity and the effects to healthcare.. We simply can't give them one less thing to complain about.. They might just have to make something up.. Like Death panels or something..

    Liberals?? Well.. They are mostly for it.. Although, I am not seeing where the cost is comming from?? In either case.. I think the health of our kids is worth it.. It might actually pay for itself.. Healthier kids won't need to go to the doctor as much..
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Our school day is 6.5 hours. They have one hour for lunch/recess and 45 minutes for a special. If you add PE everyday including the other special, that's 2.5 hours of time not in the classroom. You need 1.5 hours for reading, 1 hour for math, 1 hour for science & social studies and at least 45 min. for writing.

    But wait! There's more!

    Then you have to take into account the kids that leave class for special services like special ed, speech, occupational therapy, Title One, other therapy, etc. During that time many schools have a time when the teacher's job is to focus on certain aspects of subjects that need to be retaught. For instance, you might have a group of kids that still don't understand fractions. That's the time the teacher would take them aside and help them while the other kids are working on other things. At my school we're also required to do character education for 30 minutes once a week. Oh! How could I forget.... then there's the constant, on-going assessments of each individual child in reading, math and writing. These tests take FOR-E-VER to administer since it has to be done individually. And this is done every 7 days.

    Then you have the bathroom breaks, milk breaks, another recess (in some cases), special assemblies, intercom interruptions, etc. etc. etc.

    Many teachers I know barely have time to fit everything in everyday as it is. There HAS to be parent involvement in helping kids with non-academic areas. Schools cannot and should not do everything.



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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    not really. if it helps educate people, we are possibly saving money. i can't work up any outrage over this.
    At $14 Trillion and climbing.........let us know when the outrage starts......
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    I'm more intrigued by the liberal and conservative argument with what is in the school food, and whether or not that is where attention should go.

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    If it potentially stops 50 people from becoming obese, the lifetime savings in healthcare on them alone may make up for the 2 million this cost.

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    If it potentially stops 50 people from becoming obese, the lifetime savings in healthcare on them alone may make up for the 2 million this cost.
    Yes of course........."If it helps one person"......"If it saves one life"........

    ........then its totally worth bankrupting our grandchildren and destroying this country.
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