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Thread: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Then they need to start, because it is a huge (no pun intended) issue in America today.
    Simply stop federal subisidies and controls on health care and let the fat people pay their own medical bills.

    It's their problem if they die early.

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Untrue. Or else many advertisers wouldn't bother.
    Advertisers don't waste a lot of time on sublimal messaging. They sell in-yo-face messaging.

    I dunno, however small the effect is, that effect spread out over 300 million people might mean something.
    Won't.

    The old food pyramid contains the same information in a appealing triangular format, and no one paid it any mind. Now the triangles are part of a pie chart.

    What do people do with pies? They eat them.

    The subliminal message from our "shelf-butt" First Lady is clearly "eat more pie".

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Advertisers don't waste a lot of time on sublimal messaging. They sell in-yo-face messaging.
    I guess the 2 million Michelle Obama is spending on this pie chart is to make it in your face as well.

    Won't.

    The old food pyramid contains the same information in a appealing triangular format, and no one paid it any mind. Now the triangles are part of a pie chart.

    What do people do with pies? They eat them.

    The subliminal message from our "shelf-butt" First Lady is clearly "eat more pie".
    Quoted for humor and nothing else.

    Edit: fwiw I didn't find the food pyramid particularly appealing, visually or substantively.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Advertisers don't waste a lot of time on sublimal messaging. They sell in-yo-face messaging.
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    10 Taco Bell
    Demolition Man


    One entire scene revolves around Sandra Bullock’s character explaining to Sylvester Stallone’s unfrozen cop from the 90s that Taco Bell won the franchise wars and “now all restaurants are Taco Bells.” They then proceed to a fancy, sit down place where no Mexican food is present at all. It has nothing to do with the plot of the movie and any restaurant name could have been used. I guess Taco Bell was the highest bidder.

    9 Apple Computer
    Mission:Impossible and Independence Day


    In the mid 90s, Apple Computer (now Apple, Inc.) was facing a crisis. Very few people were buying their computers and Apple needed to get in the public eye in a positive way. So, in 1996, they put their computers on the silver screen in, not one, but two blockbuster movies. In M:I, Tom Cruise uses a PowerBook to communicate with the bad guy (and girl) and ultimately save the day (and his reputation). In ID:4, Jeff Goldblum uses a PowerBook to plant a deadly computer virus in the attacking aliens’ mothership. I even remember an Apple commercial that tied in with Mission:Impossible.
    8 Mercedes Benz
    The Lost World: Jurassic Park


    The vehicles that Jeff Goldblum and team use while exploring Site B were a new Mercedes Benz SUV. Steven Spielberg took great care to frame a shot that showed the famous Benz logo up close. Again, a commercial by Mercedes was shown on television to capitalize on this movie placement.
    7 Dodge
    Twister


    Like #8 this is another vehicle placement. What makes it so bad is that Dodge, I think, hurt themselves. The good guys all have old beat up clunkers, except for Bill Paxton’s character, who drives a brand new Dodge Ram pick-up. But the bad guys, led by Carey Elwes’ character, all drive black Dodge mini-vans. Of course, one of them gets impaled by a tornado thrown pole and then gets tossed around and eventually blown up by said tornado.
    6 FedEx
    Cast Away


    In the DVD commentary, the director, Robert Zemeckis, said they needed a “real” company to be in this movie for authenticity. But I for one can’t look at a FedEx shipping box without thinking about two things: That weird angel drawing and “Wilson! Wiiilllsooonn!”

    5 Mello Yello
    Days of Thunder


    This represents a legitimate practice; advertisers sponsoring a NASCAR racing team and plastering their logo all over the car and driver. However, after seeing this movie, every time I see a Mello Yello, I think about Tom Cruise and that black car driving through the wreckage.
    4 The Miami Dolphins
    Ace Ventura: Pet Detective


    I mention this one because the National Football League is extremely particular about the fictional use of any of its franchises or logos in movies and television. Most movies that concern a professional football team use a fictional one. It’s surprising then that the Miami Dolphins were in this movie at all.
    3 Subway
    Happy Gilmore


    Like #5 this represents a legitimate practice; a professional athlete doing product endorsements. But like #10, this one could have gone to any product. Subway just happened to win the bidding war. This one is also noticeable because in subsequent airings on cable and network television, the Subway t-shirt that Adam Sandler wears in parts of the movie has its logo blurred out.
    2 Pepsi
    Back to the Future


    The cola wars were going on hot and heavy in 1985 when the first installment of Back to the Future premiered. Pepsi was winning and in order to capitalize on that momentum they were featured heavily in this movie. There’s even a scene where Michael J. Fox’s character of Marty McFly goes into the 1955 cafe and orders a Pepsi Free, Pepsi’s diet drink. The soda jerk tells him if he wants a Pepsi he’s gonna have to pay for it. In Part 2, Marty travels to 2015. Doc Brown tells him to go to the Cafe 80s and order a Pepsi. He gives him a $50 bill to pay for it.
    1 Reese’s Pieces
    E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial


    This is the one that really started it all. Although product placement had been around before 1981, this movie put the practice into overdrive. No one will ever forget E.T. croaking out the words “Reese’s pieces” as he happily munches his way down the trail that Elliot has left for him. Interestingly, Spielberg wanted to originally use M&Ms, but couldn’t secure the rights. Hershey’s, who own Reese’s, stepped up and the rest is history.

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Then they need to start, because it is a huge (no pun intended) issue in America today.
    Its a cultural issue. Cultural issues aren't solved by pretty pictures and lecturing.

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Hence the education portion of the spending.
    Tell me why education would work? Do you honestly think people need education on how to eat healthy?

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Tell me why education would work? Do you honestly think people need education on how to eat healthy?
    Some educational campaigns work, others don't.

    And yes, many people do.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    A cheap 2 million dollar waste of time that will make the First Lady feel good and will have a few marginal studies showing minor impact.
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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Some educational campaigns work, others don't.

    And yes, many people do.
    No they don't. Even the stupidest among us knows that eating a plate full of lean meats and veggies is better for your health than a plate full of nachos.


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    Re: What do you think about the new $2 million Food Plate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    No they don't. Even the stupidest among us knows that eating a plate full of lean meats and veggies is better for your health than a plate full of nachos.
    That's not all that consists of knowing how to eat healthy.

    I'm talking about things like knowing how to read nutrition facts, and knowing what your daily limits should be, etc. A lot of people are simply ignorant on these things.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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