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You Must Apply Online: Is This a Violation of Civil Rights?

You Must Apply Online: Is This a Violation of Civil Rights?

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tessaesque said:
Again, I have to ask you to prove it. We've already mentioned the countless options for people, but nobody is showing a legitmate reason why they cannot be used.
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If someone is that excusatory about applying for work then they don't need a job, anyway, and retain the right to live in squallor and let other more abled and interested people actually apply and be gainfully employed.

If someone ever complained about any of the processes I put forward for them to apply then they obviously were't going to be the ideal employee - so I guess it helps cull the herd.
 
American said:
How many poor people have you seen without a Blackberry or smartphone? Come on! I see them all the time. Don't tell me they can't apply online.
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This is so very telling LOL
And off topic.
Sad
 
megaprogman said:
Well, I both agreed and disagreed with her on that point.
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I wasnt disagreeing I simply sad that neither me nor you did what she was stating so while true it was kind of irrelevant to the debate while your statement was spot on cause it was actually happening.

I also agree with the statement.
 
tessaesque said:
Again, I have to ask you to prove it. We've already mentioned the countless options for people, but nobody is showing a legitmate reason why they cannot be used.
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Actually there have been you just choose to ignore the examples not to mention it doesnt change the fact.
 
No, But I would have the quick consideration that the business that only accepts online applications has a bit too much faith in technology.
 
Centrist77 said:
Actually there have been you just choose to ignore the examples not to mention it doesnt change the fact.
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None of those examples were legitimate. "They work during the day", refuted. "They won't have enough time", refuted. What else?
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Computers and smart phones discriminate against those with no hands or heads. :2razz:
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On the contrary, I find computers and smartphones wonderful companions for those without heads. I couldn't explain the fascination of bloggers and twitter otherwise ;)
 
tessaesque said:
None of those examples were legitimate. "They work during the day", refuted. "They won't have enough time", refuted. What else?
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Legitimate according to who! LMAO?!

You?!

LOL sorry since you are NOT these people, don't live their lives and in general deny or are unaware the exist, your opinion on legitimate or not is pretty worthless, sorry. It be like my opinion on how painful or unpainful child birth is or how easy it would be to give up a kid after I carried it to term for adoption. I obviously have no clue.

Go back through the thread and read them if you like but they wont change their legitimacy.
 
Fiddytree said:
No, But I would have the quick consideration that the business that only accepts online applications has a bit too much faith in technology.
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#1 lesson of technology, always have a way to do whatever it is when the computers go down :mrgreen:
 
Centrist77 said:
Legitimate according to who! LMAO?!

You?!

LOL sorry since you are NOT these people, don't live their lives and in general deny or are unaware the exist, your opinion on legitimate or not is pretty worthless, sorry. It be like my opinion on how painful or unpainful child birth is or how easy it would be to give up a kid after I carried it to term for adoption. I obviously have no clue.

Go back through the thread and read them if you like but they wont change their legitimacy.
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Alright. I'm done with this debate. You're creating statements that were never made and blatantly ignoring information that has been provided, or else not understanding it. Either way, I'm over it. Consider it a win, if you'd like. The topic is ridiculous, either way.
 
Centrist77 said:
Legitimate according to who! LMAO?!

You?!

LOL sorry since you are NOT these people, don't live their lives and in general deny or are unaware the exist, your opinion on legitimate or not is pretty worthless, sorry. It be like my opinion on how painful or unpainful child birth is or how easy it would be to give up a kid after I carried it to term for adoption. I obviously have no clue.

Go back through the thread and read them if you like but they wont change their legitimacy.
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The job market is not a daycare center. There are some things that can be done to ease the struggle for employment, but at the end of the day, the inconvenient fact here is that eventually choices have to be made.
 
tessaesque said:
Alright. I'm done with this debate. You're creating statements that were never made and blatantly ignoring information that has been provided, or else not understanding it. Either way, I'm over it. Consider it a win, if you'd like. The topic is ridiculous, either way.
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really? i would LOVE examples of that fantasy.

Its not a win, its just my opinion and i asked repeatedly if someone had logic behind denying employment based on something that wasn't need to perform said job, that's all. In this case none was provided.
 
Fiddytree said:
The job market is not a daycare center. There are some things that can be done to ease the struggle for employment, but at the end of the day, the inconvenient fact here is that eventually choices have to be made.
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This I actually agree with 100%!
Problem is accepting a few hardcopy apps or resumes isnt "daycare" nor would it be a "struggle" for the company lol

But at the foundation of your statement I totally agree.
 
Centrist77 said:
really? i would LOVE examples of that fantasy.

Its not a win, its just my opinion and i asked repeatedly if someone had logic behind denying employment based on something that wasn't need to perform said job, that's all. In this case none was provided.
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You're right, because employment isn't being denied. Jesus. Okay, seriously, I'm done.
 
I think you both failed.
 
tessaesque said:
You're right, because employment isn't being denied. Jesus. Okay, seriously, I'm done.
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This doesnt make sense unless you meant IS being denied.
 
Centrist77 said:
really? i would LOVE examples of that fantasy.

Its not a win, its just my opinion and i asked repeatedly if someone had logic behind denying employment based on something that wasn't need to perform said job, that's all. In this case none was provided.
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Initiative is usually seen as a vital working trait. Initiative, which is sorely lacking in acknowledgment in your posts, is what they look for, not self-entitled yammering.
 
Fiddytree said:
Initiative is usually seen as a vital working trait. Initiative, which is sorely lacking in acknowledgment in your posts, is what they look for, not self-entitled yammering.
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Again I agree!

to bad that has NOTHING to do with what I was discussing:shrug: nice deflection though. :D
 
No, I don't consider it a violation of civil rights. There are plenty of ways to access the internet even if you don't own a computer.
 
Then don't keep making rhetorical excuses for people's inability to apply for a job from a company.
 
Fiddytree said:
Then don't keep making rhetorical excuses for people's inability to apply for a job from a company.
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You are free to have that false opinion of what I did but you would be wrong sir.
 
Fiddytree said:
No, But I would have the quick consideration that the business that only accepts online applications has a bit too much faith in technology.
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In my experience only menial and high-turn around jobs remove the personal presence aspects of applying - like Walmart and other discount stores.

In the past when I've shown up to apply and it's an in-store application computer that's set up I just leave. I don't want to work for a company that could care less about the employees.

I would never opt to use an online system - I do like seeing and meeting applicants when they come in. Appearances do matter and you can't verify that someone does look like a street bum without seeing them vis a vis
 
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I don't really see how this can be a violation of civil rights. It may not be terribly smart, but it's hardly a crime. Disallowing those without internet access only disallows a small group of people, and basically only keeps the completely impoverished from applying. It is within the rights of a company to hire or not based on economic status. It's a douchey thing to do, since those are the people who most need these kind of jobs... but it's legal.
 
Centrist77 said:
I didnt ignore, it doesnt change anything. Who cares, way do they have to be unemployed maybe the work already but want to switch, make more money etc? LOL
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The facts and reality say different.

Centrist77 said:
I said earlier that pushing civil lawsuit to the end may be hard but it is definitely discrimination in a way an a unfair practice. Like I said at the end of the day I cant think of a logical reason for a job to require you to have access to something you don't need to perform the job thats just silly and something I would always side with the applicant.
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Again prove that being poor is the same as race or a disability. As soon as you do that you may have a point. Until then you got nothing but an opinion based on emotion and not fact.

Centrist77 said:
Maybe Im over looking something? are there other examples where this goes on?
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Examples of what? Please point out how requiring an on line application is a civil rights violation. You have no evidence to back this up, none. It is not a violation because it is the choice of the person to do it or not. It is again not something out of their control, end of story.
 
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