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You voted for Obama because he was in line with your beliefs...

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zimmer said:
McCain was the ultimate centrist and you claim to be "slightly liberal". McCain was the perfect slightly liberal candidate... a one-time darling of the NYT... a "Maverick".
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And then he threw that advantage out the window by courting the right by picking one of the staunchest Conservatives to come down the pike as his running mate. No doubt he lost much of the middle after that horrendous choice.
 
Paschendale said:
And yet he tried to be moderate, and include everyone, and not use underhanded tactics to push an agenda. And you think that's a bad thing... Weird.
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Yup. The Democratic party doesn't have an agenda because it was never them who were trying to break down the democratic process. While that may hamper them when trying to get things done when they have to deal with Republicans, it IS weird for Zimmer to think that's a bad thing.
 
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For myself and most of my family and friends I voted "not disappointed", but I do have one or two family and friends who are disappointed.
 
zimmer said:
Except economically. Obama has been ultra hostile to business, an illiterate, and he's been a major league moron with foreign affairs. His military choices in Afghanistan have been poor. Petreaus sorted that out to some degree after McCrystal.

He has kept the post 911 structure in place though... reluctantly... and he's made a couple major screw-ups on this front too. NYC trials for terrorists... feigning to close Gitmo.

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Hostile to business? He's continued the same entitlement, bailouts, and handouts from before. Hell he even threw the insurance companies a bone with his crap-tastic health care plan the same as Bush did to the pharmacutical companies with Medicare Part D. So correcting for that it sounds like you agree that he's behaved exactly like Bush.
 
Paschendale said:
And yet he tried to be moderate, and include everyone, and not use underhanded tactics to push an agenda. And you think that's a bad thing... Weird.
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MisstressNomad stated here are things he hasn't gotten done that he said he would". My response is he could have... the R's couldn't stop them... only by rhetoric and going to the public. The Tea Party, not the R's shone the light on Obama and the D's.

You can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and expect to get things done isn't inclusive, and Obama isn't. His chastising the SCOTUS during the SOTU, a most unpresidential moment, illustrated what type of president we have.

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zimmer said:
Obama's party controlled Congress... he could have achieved most anything and they did not need ONE republican vote.

Not one.
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I understand that's how Republicans and Conservatives think since they often vote as a bloc, but Democrats and Liberals generally don't. That's why it took a year to pass healthcare. If Democrats merely rubber stamped everything and anything Obama wanted, they would have passed that bill immediately.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
And then he threw that advantage out the window by courting the right by picking one of the staunchest Conservatives to come down the pike as his running mate. No doubt he lost much of the middle after that horrendous choice.
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You can't really fault McCain though....he had already sold his integrity by pandering the the radical right....had he stayed true to himself, he would not have had to have gone to the "hail mary" attempt with Palin. But by that point...McCain was going to lose...he knew it...and his only shot was to try to attract women voters who perhaps were disillusioned by Hilary not getting the nomination....and try to court the right-wing. It was a smart play at the time....but unfortunately, McCain unleashed Sarah Palin on the world. Had he not picked her as his running mate, no one would even know who she is.

That said....Palin has picked up the torch and has run with it. She is the voice of the Republican party. She represents the Republican party of today....one that has no room for moderates and independents...and she is the perfect spokesperson for the party.
 
Cephus said:
I voted for him because he was, at the time, the lesser of the available evils. He's been as bad as I expected. Voting the other way would have been worse. When will we get to actually vote *FOR* a good candidate instead of voting against a particularly bad one?
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And see, that's exactly what I feel I did. And would, and will, do again.
 
Ikari said:
Hostile to business? He's continued the same entitlement, bailouts, and handouts from before. Hell he even threw the insurance companies a bone with his crap-tastic health care plan the same as Bush did to the pharmacutical companies with Medicare Part D. So correcting for that it sounds like you agree that he's behaved exactly like Bush.
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Cap gains, raising taxes, let the Bush tax cuts expire, chastising business... Obama is no Bush in that Dept... though Bush did delve into Socialist BS... and I am on record as an opponent to the idiocy.

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zimmer said:
MisstressNomad stated here are things he hasn't gotten done that he said he would". My response is he could have... the R's couldn't stop them... only by rhetoric and going to the public. The Tea Party, not the R's shone the light on Obama and the D's.

You can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and expect to get things done isn't inclusive, and Obama isn't. His chastising the SCOTUS during the SOTU, a most unpresidential moment, illustrated what type of president we have.

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What is this chastisement you speak of?
 
zimmer said:
MisstressNomad stated here are things he hasn't gotten done that he said he would". My response is he could have... the R's couldn't stop them... only by rhetoric and going to the public. The Tea Party, not the R's shone the light on Obama and the D's.

You can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and expect to get things done isn't inclusive, and Obama isn't. His chastising the SCOTUS during the SOTU, a most unpresidential moment, illustrated what type of president we have.

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Actually, Obama pointing out that the SCOTUS should NOT be a political body with a political agenda was exactly the right thing to do.
 
disneydude said:
You can't really fault McCain though....he had already sold his integrity by pandering the the radical right....had he stayed true to himself, he would not have had to have gone to the "hail mary" attempt with Palin.
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This. If we had been dealing with the McCain of the 90's, or even the early 00's, it would have been a more even battle in my mind. I liked the McCain of yore. I think the McCain of 2008 was a sell-out to the right-wingers.
 
Chappy said:
I think President Obama has done things that presidents have been trying to do for decades. Examples, health care reform and student loan reform. At a time of national economic crisis, rancorous partisan politics, two or more foreign wars, I am not only not disappointed, I am delighted and proud to have this man whose life experience is uniquely American as our president. This country has always been fortunate to find a great leader in its times of greatest need and today is no different.
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Chappy, I am not a far right winger and Im not a liberal either...but this post almost made me puke...Obama is a horrible leader and even most liberals recognize that...
 
BDBoop said:
For myself and most of my family and friends I voted "not disappointed", but I do have one or two family and friends who are disappointed.
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I was on the fence for a while deciding between Obama and McCain. I liked McCain because he is one of the more non-partisan players in Washington, but I liked Obama better because as a Liberal, he would appoint Liberals to the Supreme Court. Once I heard McCain state he would nominate justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts, I knew I had no choice but to vote for Obama.

As far as the poll? I suppose I'm mixed, but leaning more towards 'not disappointed.' I would have liked to see the economy turn around better than it has, but I believe the economy would be worse today had McCain won. I also take into account how bad the economy was before Obama even became president. It wasn't until about this point into Reagan's first term that he began turning the economy around after the mess he inherited.

But mostly, I already got what I wanted from an Obama presidency ... two Liberal U.S. Supreme Court justices.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I was on the fence for a while deciding between Obama and McCain. I liked McCain because he is one of the more non-partisan players in Washington, but I liked Obama better because as a Liberal, he would appoint Liberals to the Supreme Court. Once I heard McCain state he would nominate justices along the lines of Alito and Roberts, I knew I had no choice but to vote for Obama.

As far as the poll? I suppose I'm mixed, but leaning more towards 'not disappointed.' I would have liked to see the economy turn around better than it has, but I believe the economy would be worse today had McCain won. I also take into account how bad the economy was before Obama even became president. It wasn't until about this point into Reagan's first term that he began turning the economy around after the mess he inherited.

But mostly, I already got what I wanted from an Obama presidency ... two Liberal U.S. Supreme Court justices.
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I would even consider voting for Romney....IF (and its a big if)....Ginsburg were to retire and Obama put a true liberal on the Supreme Court....our Supreme Court is way to fragile to allow it to fall into the hands of right-wing activists. With Alito, Scalia, Thomas and Roberts...we cannot afford the possibility of a Republican in the whitehouse to put another activist on the court.
 
zimmer said:
Scolding the SCOTUS during the SOTU was classless... unpresidential... childish. The SCOTUS is a co-equal branch of government, and no president will get all the rulings he likes.

In his last address « Search Results « Supreme Court Insider (sm)

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Its not a matter of "getting a ruling that you like".....Citizens united was judicial activism at its absolute worst (as your link indicates). Those justices should be ashamed and it was good to see Obama have the spine to tell them that they should not be politicizing the Supreme Court.
 
BDBoop said:
And see, that's exactly what I feel I did. And would, and will, do again.
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What, voted for a crappy candidate because he wasn't as crappy as the other guy?
 
Ikari said:
Voting for the lesser of two evils leaves you with evil. If you want to find a candidate you can vote for, you may have to turn to outside the Republocrats.

BTW, the only think Obama hasn't done that I expected him to before he took office was invade Pakistan. Otherwise, I expected him to behave pretty much the same as Bush. And he has.
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No, I'd have to turn out all American politicians because there isn't a single party *AT ALL* worth voting for.
 
Cephus said:
I voted for him because he was, at the time, the lesser of the available evils. He's been as bad as I expected. Voting the other way would have been worse. When will we get to actually vote *FOR* a good candidate instead of voting against a particularly bad one?
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BDBoop said:
And see, that's exactly what I feel I did. And would, and will, do again.
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Cephus said:
What, voted for a crappy candidate because he wasn't as crappy as the other guy?
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Reading comprehension has been quite dodgy here today. Anybody else noticing that?
 
disneydude said:
Its not a matter of "getting a ruling that you like".....Citizens united was judicial activism at its absolute worst (as your link indicates). Those justices should be ashamed and it was good to see Obama have the spine to tell them that they should not be politicizing the Supreme Court.
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If you want to learn of Judicial Activism, where it started, how the firewalls were broken, I recommend the book Men in Black.

Scalia, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas are folks that use The Constitution as the floor to base their decisions. It is no surprise Obama, who signed a HC law that is unConstitutional would dissent. Roe v. Wade, as noted by Justice White was an exercise of raw judicial power. FDR's Raw Deal was an exercise of the court overstepping their bounds, and FDR over stepping his too. We know Obama supports the above, and more as illustrated in the video below.

That Obama had the gall to pull the crap he did at the time he did (SOTU) illustrates what type of individual he is, and well, his twisted ideas of the Constitution are known... even for a guy that had scant record or paper/audio trail before coming into office.



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I voted for Obama, but he's substantially out-of-step with my beliefs, which I knew from the start. I would say I'm only slightly disappointed, because I expected a little more, but not much.
 
I do think he has done a good job representing our country.
 
He has a lot more positive than negative. My main point is he isn't as clear as he should be and he comes off as a bitch sometimes.
 
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