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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I thought it awfully similar to the family values routine. Conservatives were able to puff their chest in the midst of the counterculture, rightly so I might add, and liberals were struggling with coming up with an identity thereafter. Liberals since then have longed for the moment where a conservative, who had puffed up their chest or not, engages in dubious behavior.
    The difference is, the general public will buy the hypocrisy narrative when it comes to "family values conservatives" pulling a Larry Craig or a Mark Foley. This flag bull**** is so obviously a stupid cheap shot as to not warrant a serious response.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The difference is, the general public will buy the hypocrisy narrative when it comes to "family values conservatives" pulling a Larry Craig or a Mark Foley. This flag bull**** is so obviously a stupid cheap shot as to not warrant a serious response.
    This incidence is a poorly conceived attack. I just think the tendency to look for an opening for those reasons will remain.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    This incidence is a poorly conceived attack. I just think the tendency to look for an opening for those reasons will remain.
    Agree to disagree, I guess.

    But if you are correct, personally if I were a liberal pundit or a dem strategist I would wait until I see a conservative taking a cell phone pic of himself actually pissing on a flag before I start screaming hypocrisy. Conservatives generally don't make a lot of stupid mistakes with flags
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    There was the whole lapel pin fiasco around election time in 2007-2008. It was first a conservative-led "issue" and then it became a point of liberals accusing conservatives of the same.

    Again, people just like rhetorical targets.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Actually just checked. Those violate flag code unless they are considered a patriotic organization.
    Well that's very subjective but it just goes to show you that the code is meaningless in many ways.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    Well that's very subjective but it just goes to show you that the code is meaningless in many ways.
    You raise an interesting point. I don't know for sure, but I am fairly confident that the term "patriotic organizations" refers to a specific group of organizations authorized by the government, like the American Legion or the Boy/Girl Scouts. You can't just unilaterally declare yourself a patriotic organization, as far as I know.

    But that's all supposition and I have nothing to back it up. Like I said, you raise a fair point.

    On the other hand, even if there is no standard, you still apply a good faith standard or what is or is not a "patriotic organization." And it's definitely not a private sports team.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    If the money was right Sarah Palin would use the U.S. flag for toilet paper. It could be argued that she already has, certainly during Rolling Thunder.










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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    If the money was right Sarah Palin would use the U.S. flag for toilet paper. It could be argued that she already has, certainly during Rolling Thunder.
    That's just plain old PDO



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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    We have people burning the flag and THIS makes the news? And people wonder why this country is in such dire straights.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    We have people burning the flag and THIS makes the news? And people wonder why this country is in such dire straights.
    Or, you know; dire straits.

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