YES! Fine her! Throw her in jail!
Maybe...it seems disrespectful.
Really? This is what we're talking about?
"To waste, to destroy, our natural resources, to skin and exhaust the land instead of using it so as to increase its usefulness, will result in undermining in the days of our children the very prosperity which we ought by rights to hand down to them."~ Theodore Roosevelt (Message to Congress, Dec. 3, 1907)
Originally Posted by WhovianYou apparently missed this part...Originally Posted by mertex
i.The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.
Originally Posted by WhovianRgiht. Everyone in the media is protecting Palin, and would jump all over a DemOriginally Posted by mertex
According to the letter of 'Flag Code...
United States Code: Title 4,8. Respect for flag | LII / Legal Information Institute
...these are disrespectful displays of the American flag...The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
Superbowl flag display:
Veterans Day parade flag display:
Inaugural parade for President Bush, flag display:
Some people are too concerned with the 'letter' of the lae, and ignore the 'heart' of the law.
Last edited by Guy Incognito; 06-03-11 at 08:39 AM.
USFlag.org: A website dedicated to the Flag of the United States of America - Flag Etiquette
This 2nd link is good - gives real examples of violations or *of not violations* that were controversial moments:The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal.
The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard
The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.
The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms. To store the flag it should be folded neatly and ceremoniously.
Flag Rules and Regulations
American Flag Wall of Shame
From this 2nd link:
Bush stood on a flagMay 31, 2011. MSNBC's Martin Bashir criticized Sarah Palin for having her bus show an American flag and accused her of a possible breach of federal law, saying that the flag should never be used for advertising purposes. There can be no breach, as the Flag Code is only advisory. There is a long unchallenged tradition of politicians using the flag in their campaigns. The partial flag on her bus is recognizable as a flag, so does constitute a US flag. Bashir is correct that the Flag Code states that the flag should never be used for advertising purposes.
Bush and Palin signed one
Obama grafittied one and during his campaign they were discarded on the gorund like confetti
Shame shame on everyone.
But none of this is a 'law' of any type - just a guideline of respect.
Last edited by Aunt Spiker; 06-03-11 at 08:48 AM.
A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
Speaking of which, I've noticed a lot of people here claim that flag code is out of date or should be changed. If that is true, the proper way to do so is through a change in the law.
But frankly, if you really look at the code and really understand its restrictions, it is hard to argue with. Carrying a flag horizontal means that to half of a crowd the blue field is seen as upside down.
I don't think even the staunchest of the hippies who've been arguing against me in this thread would have the galll to claim that displaying a flag upside down is respectful.
Last edited by Guy Incognito; 06-03-11 at 08:54 AM.