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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nonsense. The flag code makes no claims to be a criminal statute. It's a useful reference tool for those of us who want to respect the flag.

    It is enforceable in a de facto way. The shame of a violation should be penalty enough.

    an interesting libertarian perspective

    but not one I share from either my professional standpoint or as someone who understands the libertarian philosophy



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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Unless your favorite t-shirt is a uniform for a patriotic organization, you are violation flag code by using an image of a flag as wearing apparel.

    Perhaps rather than resorting to physical violence, you might just stop wearing the shirt, and burn it with honor as required by the code.
    then you'd be slammed upside your dumb ass head if I was wearing it when we met.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    an interesting libertarian perspective

    but not one I share from either my professional standpoint or as someone who understands the libertarian philosophy
    Nonsense. There is nothing coercive about promulgating optional rules. It's the most libertarian sort of government there is!

    Shows how little you understand of libertarianism really.

    But it's all good.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    then you'd be slammed upside your dumb ass head if I was wearing it when we met.
    Indeed, as I should be. My apologies for that, I edited it.

    Sometimes in my zeal to see the flag treated with proper respect I forget that people who disagree with me are still trying their best.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    According to the flag code, I don't really think she's breaking the law - but for someone who claims to be so patriotic, she should show more respect for the flag than to include it in her "circus" tour. Of course, she's way to dumb to recognize it.

    USFlag.org: A website dedicated to the Flag of the United States of America - United States Code



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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nonsense. There is nothing coercive about promulgating optional rules. It's the most libertarian sort of government there is!

    Shows how little you understand of libertarianism really.

    Adios, TD!
    I would bet that more real libertarians would agree that my knowledge of the philosophy is superior to yours though you have been getting better recently

    real libertarians don't support silly rules that have no relevance to increasing the values libertarians hold dear.

    private property is private property and owners should be free to dispose or use of it as they see fit as long as such disposal or use DOES NOT OBJECTIVELY HARM an innocent other person



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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Official Obama t shirt...


    Official Obama merchandise...

    Note the logos that obviously would make any sane person think of the American flag.

    And then there's that damned Postal Service...



    Bastards... defacing the flag with their evil communist postmarks...

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Official Obama t shirt...


    Official Obama merchandise...

    Note the logos that obviously would make any sane person think of the American flag.

    And then there's that damned Postal Service...


    Bastards... defacing the flag with their evil communist postmarks...

    That's a stretch. Obama's mdse does not show the flag - geez, how do you get a flag from that? That you would think of the flag and it being the flag are not the same.

    And, the post office stamps are not desecrating the flag - there is nothing wrong with displaying the flag.

    Palin isn't breaking the law, but to display it on a "circus" tour could be considered disrespectful, but of course, she wouldn't know it, Miss Patriotism!



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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    That's a stretch. Obama's mdse does not show the flag - geez, how do you get a flag from that? That you would think of the flag and it being the flag are not the same.

    And, the post office stamps are not desecrating the flag - there is nothing wrong with displaying the flag.

    Palin isn't breaking the law, but to display it on a "circus" tour could be considered disrespectful, but of course, she wouldn't know it, Miss Patriotism!
    If you go by the letter of the US Code, as Guy likes to, then you're wrong.

    First, anything that even remotely resembles the flag, or any part of the flag, counts as a flag... the exact statutes have been posted several times in this thread. The red, white and blue O logo certainly would make any sane person think of the American flag.

    Second, the flag is not supposed to be on anything temporary or disposable. Stamps are most certainly temporary. When you get a letter, do you keep the envelope? ALL of them, all the time? Or, like most people, do you throw it away? If it has a flag stamp, then you're violating the letter of the US Code again.

    My point is that all these things are stupid, and the code should be changed to reflect that a patriotic t shirt, or mural of a flag on the side of a building, or a flag stamp, are NOT unpatriotic or disrespectful to the flag.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    If you go by the letter of the US Code, as Guy likes to, then you're wrong.

    First, anything that even remotely resembles the flag, or any part of the flag, counts as a flag... the exact statutes have been posted several times in this thread. The red, white and blue O logo certainly would make any sane person think of the American flag.
    That's funny, it wasn't too long ago conservatives were claiming Obama's logo resembled some ME crescent. So, which is it, the American flag or some Muslim crescent? Or, does it change to satisfy the whims of conservatives?

    Right-wing media link new agency logo to Obama's, Pepsi's, Iran's, Islamic Crescent | Media Matters for America

    Second, the flag is not supposed to be on anything temporary or disposable. Stamps are most certainly temporary. When you get a letter, do you keep the envelope? ALL of them, all the time? Or, like most people, do you throw it away? If it has a flag stamp, then you're violating the letter of the US Code again.
    And you have a link to the law that specifically says that? Because I looked up the flag code and apparently it is lax.

    My point is that all these things are stupid, and the code should be changed to reflect that a patriotic t shirt, or mural of a flag on the side of a building, or a flag stamp, are NOT unpatriotic or disrespectful to the flag.
    They actually are disrespectful of the flag, but they have been tolerated for so long, nobody really cares anymore. But, if some Democrat were parading around on some circus tour, I'm sure there would be plenty of complaints from the right that the flag was being disrespected. But, being that it is Sarah Palin, nobody really gives a darn.



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