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Thread: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Technical;ly Guy, it's part of US Code, not part of Flag Code. Title 4 USC Chapter 1 is 'commonly referred to as 'flag Code', but it's officially Title 4 USC Chapter 1... of which Chapter 4 contains the following...
    Well, technically Title 4 USC Chapter 1 et seq. is the Flag code, which I believe includes the Pledge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    nothing in there about removing or not removing parts, requiring it to be said, etc... just 'how' it is to be delivered when it is actually said.
    You're right, there is nothing in there that authorizes anyone to change a single word of the Pledge. The only way to do so is by act of Congress.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Actually, Guy; what is anybody going to do with a child who picks and chooses how they say the pledge. Seriously. I'd be grateful they're thinking, myself.
    If it was my kid, the irreverence of it would be very concerning to me.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Well, technically Title 4 USC Chapter 1 et seq. is the Flag code, which I believe includes the Pledge.



    You're right, there is nothing in there that authorizes anyone to change a single word of the Pledge. The only way to do so is by act of Congress.
    There is nothing in there that prevents it either, and that is the point.

    There is nothing in there that requires it ever even be said.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Well, technically Title 4 USC Chapter 1 et seq. is the Flag code, which I believe includes the Pledge.
    incorrect... it is US Code. Specifically, TITLE 4—FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES, and the chapter is 'Chapter 1-The Flag'. No where in US Code is any of it referred to as 'Flag Code'.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    incorrect... it is US Code. Specifically, TITLE 4—FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES, and the chapter is 'Chapter 1-The Flag'. No where in US Code is any of it referred to as 'Flag Code'.
    Flag Code is not an official name for it, but when people talk about US Flag code, this is what they are referring to. I never said that "Flag Code" is the official name. What's your point with all this?

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    There is nothing in there that prevents it either, and that is the point.
    Yes, there is something that prevents you from making up your own Pledge. It's the fact that the real Pledge is promulgated by Congress. You can make up whatever gibberish you want and call it the Pledge, but that don't make it so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    There is nothing in there that requires it ever even be said.
    Irrelevant. If the Pledge is said, then it must be said in accordance with the statute. Otherwise it is simply not the Pledge, it is merely a collection of words.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yes, there is something that prevents you from making up your own Pledge. It's the fact that the real Pledge is promulgated by Congress.



    Irrelevant. If the Pledge is said, then it must be said in accordance with the statute. Otherwise it is simply not the Pledge, it is merely a collection of words.
    what is the penalty for misspeaking the Pledge?

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    what is the penalty for misspeaking the Pledge?
    Otherwise known as a collection of words...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    what is the penalty for misspeaking the Pledge?
    There is no criminal penalty. The only penalty is that when you misspeak the Pledge you have not actually said the authentic Pledge.

    I consider that to be a serious penalty.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Flag Code is not an official name for it, but when people talk about US Flag code, this is what they are referring to. I never said that "Flag Code" is the official name. What's your point with all this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito
    Yes! The Pledge is part of Flag Code, Title 4 USC Chapter 1 Section 4.
    You capitalized Flag & Code, implying officialism.

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