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Thread: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I've read the code sam as everyone else here has. Saying a mural or the american flag is unpatriotic or disrespectful to the flag, because it's on the side of a building where it can get rained on... is ****ing stupid.
    The idea is not simply that it can get rained on, but that the flag can become worn out or even destroyed in the process of being exposed to the elements, thus being disrespected.

    But, to quote Lavar Burton, you don't have to take my word for it:

    Quote Originally Posted by 4 USC 1 6 (c)
    The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all weather flag is displayed.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    This one is fine. No violation.

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    Even if murals were ok, this is advertising. It's a violation.

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    This one isn't even a real flag. No stars. These Vets seem to have an good understanding of Flag Code. No violation.

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    It's a nice painting, I just wish it was indoors. It's a violation.

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    Ditto.

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    ...then the flag code needs to be changed.
    You're free to write your Congressperson.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    No. I said "I pledge alligience to the republic, with liberty and justice for all". The rest was omitted (or I remained silent).
    That's pretty messed up.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    That's pretty messed up.
    Why? I'm pledging my loyalty to the country, above all else. There is absolutely ntohing wrong with that.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post


    This one isn't even a real flag. No stars. These Vets seem to have an good understanding of Flag Code. No violation..
    Your understanding of flag code needs work...
    The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.
    Read that last part carefully, look at the picture, and tell me that picture does not represent the American flag to you.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Your understanding of flag code needs work...


    Read that last part carefully, look at the picture, and tell me that picture does not represent the American flag to you.
    Whovian, I am basing my statement on precisely that passage from the Code. Who is going to mistake that for an American flag? It's got an uninterrupted field of blue. The American flag does not and never has looked like that. By your logic a Liberian flag would be considered an American flag, too.

    That being said, I can see the argument going the other direction. If I squint real hard and don't notice the lack of stars, it looks like an American flag. So perhaps you are right, maybe this is also a violation of flag code.
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Why? I'm pledging my loyalty to the country, above all else. There is absolutely ntohing wrong with that.
    There is nothing wrong with pledging your loyalty to this country, but that it not what you are doing. You are purposely butchering the Pledge.

    You don't get to write the Flag Code yourself and you don't get to write the Pledge either! Geez!

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    There is nothing wrong with pledging your loyalty to this country, but that it not what you are doing. You are purposely butchering the Pledge.

    You don't get to write the Flag Code and you don't get to write the Pledge either! Geez!
    What? Now the pledge is law?
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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Whovian, I am basing my statement on precisely that passage from the Code. Who is going to mistake that for an American flag? It's an uninterrupted field of blue. The American flag does not and never has looked like that. By your logic a Liberian flag would be considered an American flag, too.

    That being said, I can see the argument going the other direction. But perhaps you are right, maybe this is also a violation of flag code.
    First, that could well be incomplete. There is a man on a scaffold... he could be about to paint the stars.

    Second, the passage specifically states...
    'by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America'

    not

    'by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may mistake it for the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America'.

    Big difference. Something can 'represent' the flag, without being 'mistaken for' the flag.

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    Re: Is Sarah Palin's use of the American flag a breach of federal law?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    What? Now the pledge is law?
    Yes! The Pledge is part of Flag Code, Title 4 USC Chapter 1 Section 4.

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