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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Education is always a good thing, but it doesn't really change anything for children growing up with it now. Also, no matter how much education there is, other children (a significant some but not all) will always treat someone with an obvious disability differently. If nothing else, the surgery could mean a lot less staring.
    Give me an example of a child who has nothing other kids pick on.

    I got picked on for my name, my hair, my clothes, having glassess... all sorts of things. Surgery to disguise physical difference is looking at the issue through the wrong end.

    EDIT: And by the by, my elementary school actually had a program for the mainstream kids to mentor a disabled kid. It was a simple program that taught us very effectively that some people are different and they're still people. If anything, I think the disabled kids got picked on less at my school.
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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
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    This is not a new story but I think the ethical issues it raises are still interesting. Could plastic surgery mean greater acceptance for a child with DS or does it actually hinder acceptance of the condition?

    So, what do you think, do you support plastic surgery for children to lessen the "look" of Down's Syndrome?

    Explain why or why not.
    Some of it was actually functional, not just appearance.
    I don't feel this is wrong for some reason.
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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Yup, there are people like that. But in such a case, they are capable of consenting to the surgery themselves. A child or a more impaired person are not.
    Ah, but in the case of those individuals, it has to be up to their guardians to make those decisions. What if a child is born with a cleft palate? Should they not get surgery for it just because they can't consent?
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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    If the surgery is necessary the government must support it, even with tax money. And if the parents mind it is better, than it should be happen.
    I don't know that I'm on board with committing tax money to something apparently so controversial.
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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ah, but in the case of those individuals, it has to be up to their guardians to make those decisions. What if a child is born with a cleft palate? Should they not get surgery for it just because they can't consent?
    I think they should consent to it as adults, if they want it.

    Cleft palate causes actual medical problems. Surgery to correct it relieves them. Very different from cosmetic surgery to try to fit in.

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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    I think they should consent to it as adults, if they want it.

    Cleft palate causes actual medical problems. Surgery to correct it relieves them. Very different from cosmetic surgery to try to fit in.
    The tongue correction with DS could correct speech problems.
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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The tongue correction with DS could correct speech problems.
    If there's a medical reason for it, it's not cosmetic. Speech is a major component of human interaction. If speech problems can only be fixed through surgery, go for it. If speech therapy offers a high chance of comprehensive speech ability, go for that. Least invasive method possible.

    The stated reason in the article for the surgery was cosmetic, to fit in. That is pretty abhorrent to me.

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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Often they are going to have more surgeries than other kids due to cardiac and intestinal problems. It seems to me that adding another surgery for cosmetic is just one too many for these little guys.

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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    This is all kinds of wrong! Bless those little babies and let them be who they are. In my humble opinion it is wrong to attempt to make them like "us". They aren't broken, they don't need to be fixed. They are different, as hopefully, we all are. They don't need to locked up in a closet, hidden from the public, changed to fool others into thinking they are someone different than who they are. Down's Syndrome people are not stupid. They know, they feel. Why in the name of all things holy would anyone want to subject a child to needless surgery to hide the child from who or she is? The inference is then, "You are different, you are ugly, you should be ashamed."; We are good, we are desirable, we are more perfect and you should look like us." Arrrrrrghhhh!!!!

    The idea totally chaps my ass.










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    Re: Plastic Surgery for Children With Down's Syndrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    If there's a medical reason for it, it's not cosmetic. Speech is a major component of human interaction. If speech problems can only be fixed through surgery, go for it. If speech therapy offers a high chance of comprehensive speech ability, go for that. Least invasive method possible.

    The stated reason in the article for the surgery was cosmetic, to fit in. That is pretty abhorrent to me.
    I've had A LOT of experience with people who have physical "deformities" and wanting people to be more educated is kinda pie in the sky, in my opinion.

    For every 1 person that doesn't care, there are 1000 more people who treat them like freaks.
    It's more of a person just wanting to fit in and the parents would probably rather the child not be treated as such, all their life.
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