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SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

Same-sex marriage is wrong because

  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    Votes: 65 78.3%

  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 14 16.9%
  • Total voters
    83
Removable Mind said:
So...one of your many very convoluted arguments...whats to keep people from going from gay marriage to marrying an animal or object. To marry anybody or thing requires "consent" as Ms. Boop pointed out to you.
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because thats the way it is now. we currently see consent as important....someday, we may not.
 
BDBoop said:
What's your beef. Honest to [expletive-deleted], why DO YOU care? Why are you just fine with an entire segment of the populace being denied the right to marry.
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It ain't my business, they ain't hurting no one, thus I do not care.
 
mac said:
because thats the way it is now. we currently see consent as important....someday, we may not.
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Marriage is a contract, and as such always requires consent. Things which cannot give consent (such as animals) cannot enter into legal contract.
 
mac said:
because thats the way it is now. we currently see consent as important....someday, we may not.
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Not likely. Children were treated as little adults up until a couple centuries ago and as property before then. The introduction of Developmental Psychology has had the greatest influence on our laws in this regard since it allowed us to realize the degree to which young children were cognitively incapable of understanding the risks of many behaviors and decisions. Reasonable men recognized this fact and have changed the law to acknowledge it.

Also, I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge you lied and apologize to me.
 
mac said:
because thats the way it is now. we currently see consent as important....someday, we may not.
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so...? Someday the sun may turn purple. Is this a psychic glance into your future? You do a good job of making an opposite argument whether is makes sense or not. But, you are still loved by many, Mac...
 
Removable Mind said:
so...? Someday the sun may turn purple. Is this a psychic glance into your future? You do a good job of making an opposite argument whether is makes sense or not. But, you are still loved by many, Mac...
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i love when people say, oh that could never happen.
 
mac said:
i love when people say, oh that could never happen.
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Ah, now you are ignoring me. Good choice for someone who lies.

So tell us mac, since you believe that homosexuality is unnatural, does that play into your moral stance on the issue? Let's hear your honest reply for once.
 
mac said:
because thats the way it is now. we currently see consent as important....someday, we may not.
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Consent laws contradict no other laws, especially when it comes to things that don't have rights to begin with. Current marriage laws that bar same sex couples from entering into marriage conflict with Equal Protection laws.

Marriage is a right that always involves legally consenting individuals who have their rights under the Constitution, even if some of those rights have been removed via due process. There is very little chance that we are going to give any rights to a toaster.
 
mac said:
i did not.
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BS... you're going to play this game again, and with CT and me... at the same time, and on the same thread? Everything you said amounts to a joke.
 
mac said:
i love when people say, oh that could never happen.
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Send me a note when your state passes a law that allows you to marry your pet rock or hamster...with consent.
 
Blackdog said:
I agree, but people or pollsters do it all the time + or - 3% lol. My personal polL may not be as accurate, but it also does not mean it is not correct.

My Pole has been corrected. :lamo
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As in not as accurate means not as correct. To convince we need more. it would be perfectly reasonable for you to give a personal example, and then match it to a study that supports it. But without such a study, it is meaningless.
 
Boo Radley said:
As in not as accurate means not as correct.
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We are talking about polls. None of which are 100%. So no.

Boo Radley said:
To convince we need more. it would be perfectly reasonable for you to give a personal example, and then match it to a study that supports it. But without such a study, it is meaningless.
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I did that and it was still dismissed.

So without a level of intellectual honesty not found in this debate, that will not happen.

PS: Don't care if they are convinced or not.
 
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BDBoop said:
But SSM isn't about acts. Did you get married so you could get laid without it being a sin?
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Yes. That is exactly why I and my wife got married. I mean other reasons as well, but that was a big one. No pun intended.
 
CriticalThought said:
When did you do that?

I think you have me mixed up with someone else.
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Originally Posted by CriticalThought
I disagree. If you support it then you do ask for it.
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then you are wrong. you just had two people tell you they support it but aren't asking for it. what makes you think you know more about how we feel than we do ourselves? very arrogant of you
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Originally Posted by CriticalThought
Idiotic remarks. I don't care if you support gay rights or not, when you come into a thread and distort my arguments then you are going to hear about it! I asked you a simple question about how abortion was comparable to gay marriage and you went off on some tangent about equal rights because you knew it was an illogical comparison to make. Be a man and admit when you are wrong!
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but it is perfectly OK for you to distort mine and tell me how I feel and what I think?
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for example....
 
BDBoop said:
That's why minors can't enter contracts. They are legally unable to give consent.
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Absolutely.

I believe we should change the parental consent exception for most underage marriages too, but that is OT.
 
Blackdog said:
I have done it as well. So have many others.
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Well please, post a link or two instead of making empty accusations. I would love to see this hypocrisy. It sounds to me like you and Oscar just want to discredit me in order to protect one of your conservative buddies who has been caught telling a few lies.
 
Removable Mind said:
Send me a note when your state passes a law that allows you to marry your pet rock or hamster...with consent.
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send me a note when your state lets two boys get married....
 
CriticalThought said:
Well please, post a link or two instead of making empty accusations. I would love to see this hypocrisy. It sounds to me like you and Oscar just want to discredit me in order to protect one of your conservative buddies who has been caught telling a few lies.
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No I don't want to discredit you. I do however know we all do this at times. I ignore people at some point as well.

So for you to try and take some kind of high road on this is just wrong.
 
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