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SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

Same-sex marriage is wrong because

  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

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I have known way to many that do. It just amazes me how people don't want to see it.

My sister and her partner, and their best friends (a gay male couple) are no different than my husband and I when we were together. Maybe that's because the lot of us are in our 50's?
 
I'm saying that it's not the majority.

Allow me to add, that even if he is correct in what he thinks he sees, his sample simply can't be laege enough.
 
I'm saying that it's not the majority.

No. You said...

I think you are taking a subset of gay men, and applying that to all gay men. - Your Star
 
True colors in 3, 2, 1...

My true colors have always been readily apparent on this board. Funny how you tried to make that look like a bad thing.
 
My sister and her partner, and their best friends (a gay male couple) are no different than my husband and I when we were together. Maybe that's because the lot of us are in our 50's?

Your sample is not large enough.
 
Very, VERY different. Lesbians seem to want committed relationships at a much higher percentage. Of course unlike your experience with the men and sex with women (I agree) I have seen them switch back and forth in a more bi sexual way than men.

It's been recognized by psychologists that women are generally more flexible when it comes to sexual orientation compared to men. Of course, I think social norms might also a play a part, as PDAs on the part of lesbians seem not to repulse people as much as gay men.

I've not seen evidence to convince me that lesbians generally want more committed relationships than gay men however.
 
The constant changing of sex partners, public displays of sex and almost constant comments about sex in general. In other words they act like most men. The difference is females tend to tone it down in heterosexual men. Homosexual men are with men, need I say more?
This sounds SOME of the straight frat brothers I used to go to college with. You're not describing a gay lifestyle - you're describing promiscuity, sexual insecurity, attention whoring and immaturity (although one could also display this in a positive light and call it "being comfortable with one's sexuality"). These are characteristics that some gay and straight men and women have.

Because it is repulsive to me. Not gay people mind you, that particular aspects of that sort of lifestyle etc.
Again, not a gay lifestyle. These are traits of human beings (gay and straight) and they have become a stereotype of gay men.

I have known way to many that do. It just amazes me how people don't want to see it.
There are gay men like this and oftentimes, they are younger, just like young straight men (and women) revolve their entire lives around sexual conquests, etc. However, when these people mature, that whole "sex is everything" mentality tends to change. I think you need to meet a greater variety of gay men and straight women as well. There are a lot of gay men who don't participate in the gay lifestyle as you have described it and there are a lot of straight women who do.
 
Should have said most, my bad.

Now please Star, why did you feel you had to add all in the spur of the moment? When I never said anything like that?
 
What I do not like is you pretending to be all civilized and needing to turn away from the attacking and degrading arguments of the other side, only to present your own demonization.

Reading you is just like reading a rabid pro-lifer or anti-SSMer. Nothing but absolute claims and insults.

We're not reading the same person. How strange.
 
I don't think the gays who based their entire lifestyle on their sexuality are all that different than the Christians who based their entire lifestyle on their religion.
 
To be fair, Eco, state sanctioned marriage is not going anywhere and we all know it.

And as long as it remains, then everybody who is of legal age and free to do so, (i.e., not currently married) should have the right to wed.
 
This sounds SOME of the straight frat brothers I used to go to college with. You're not describing a gay lifestyle - you're describing promiscuity, sexual insecurity, attention whoring and immaturity (although one could also display this in a positive light and call it "being comfortable with one's sexuality"). These are characteristics that some gay and straight men and women have.


Again, not a gay lifestyle. These are traits of human beings (gay and straight) and they have become a stereotype of gay men.


There are gay men like this and oftentimes, they are younger, just like young straight men (and women) revolve their entire lives around sexual conquests, etc. However, when these people mature, that whole "sex is everything" mentality tends to change. I think you need to meet a greater variety of gay men and straight women as well. There are a lot of gay men who don't participate in the gay lifestyle as you have described it and there are a lot of straight women who do.

Your whole argument is useless as I already said "men in general." The problem is also as I have mentioned that too many gay men think that their sexuality IS their life.

I have lived around and with all kinds of gay people all my life. I can say with certainty, it is the lifestyle for a large percentage.
 
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What is the conflict for you? I've actually always wanted to start a thread in the Abortion Forum like this... since I am really on the fence about abortion. But, you have an opportunity here, to present your conflict and have people, hopefully, give you straight feedback and try to help you expand your positions... either pro or anti. Give it a shot.

Thank you, because that's what I'm looking for.
 
I don't think the gays who based their entire lifestyle on their sexuality are all that different than the Christians who based their entire lifestyle on their religion.

:lol::lol:

Yea keep em coming.
 
IF we need some kind of government contract for sharing responsibility, we can go with civil unions. To some extent this is not so different than marriage, but I believe it is in an important way - it drops all the baggage and takes 'marriage' (some read: religion) out of government.

My solution is to address the source of the problem. Addressing a symptom of the problem by expanding the problem is not reasonable to me. I do not see expanding the source of the problem as a rational solution. Let's just accept that the word 'marriage' might have religious connotations and drop it.

If someone cannot see the above(s) as a logical and rational objection to SSM, that's their (overly-emotional) problem.




I'm not arguing to keep things the same. Both of us are arguing for a change, but only one of us is arguing to expand governmental social engineering as some kind of (emotionally misguided) solution.

So what if two women of faith want to get married in a church, you'd say get thee to the courthouse?

In your - [insert words here for how you think things should be] world, What is it called after that. If marriage is abolished, then nobody is married, and they don't have a marriage, right?
 
Now please Star, why did you feel you had to add all in the spur of the moment? When I never said anything like that?

It was a mistake, let it go.
 
Your whole argument is useless as I already said "men in general."
That actually backs up my argument since you just admitted that you're not describing a gay lifestyle - you're describing a male lifestyle.

The problem is also as I have mentioned that too many gay men that think there sexuality IS their life.
Which is why I think you need to meet more gay people or maybe it's that you've already met them but didn't realize it since they didn't make their sexuality their lifestyle.

I have lived around and with all kinds of gay people all my life. I can say with certainty, it is the lifestyle for a large percentage.
Certainty doesn't do much for the truth. You're describing a subset of gay men and the lifestyle of a subset of gay men does not equal a "gay lifestyle" particularly since it is the same type of promiscuous lifestyle had by subsets of straight men and women.
 
There is no such thing as "gay marriage", the term 'marriage' describes a union between a man and a woman for the purpose of begetting children. This whole issue is just ridiculous.

Hi. Welcome to the board.

So, people should only get married if they intend to procreate?
 
It was a mistake, let it go.

So you are just going to say it is a mistake? OK.

You know as well as I do it has happened far too many times with far to many people.
 
So you are just going to say it is a mistake? OK.

You know as well as I do it has happened far too many times with far to many people.

Yes it was a mistake, I don't know why you are having trouble believing me.
 
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