View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    There's no Constitutional right to do that.
    There is as much as there is for the minority's desire to do the same.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The right to define marriage in keeping with its values....in this case.

    What about the rights of people to define it otherwise?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There is as much as there is for the minority's desire to do the same.
    Here's the difference:

    Insofar as the definition of marriage is concerned, there's a pretty solid argument that the current DOMA definition of marriage is hurting gay couples.

    I fail to see how the reverse holds true.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There is as much as there is for the minority's desire to do the same.
    That's not the minority's desire. Their desire is to have the full of their right to contract recognized. What you're arguing is the right of the majority is the right to discriminate against certain sects with the use of government force; and that one most certainly cannot be allowed to be upheld.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    This thread is probably a good example of what goes on in Washington.

    If there are claims that social problems are arising from gay marriage that ultimately "can't be identified, with some level of detail" - and which is also framed in a way to substantially reduce as much skepticism as possible. Then there will never be a solution. The arguments will continue on as it has in here - and to no avail.

    Personal beliefs are moot without some social evidence that gay marriage is indeed causing harm to our society as a whole.

    Thus far...nada.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Here's the difference:

    Insofar as the definition of marriage is concerned, there's a pretty solid argument that the current DOMA definition of marriage is hurting gay couples.

    I fail to see how the reverse holds true.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's not the minority's desire. Their desire is to have the full of their right to contract recognized. What you're arguing is the right of the majority is the right to discriminate against certain sects with the use of government force; and that one most certainly cannot be allowed to be upheld.
    Why does there need to be harm? What harm does it do? And if it's just right to contract, then why not civil unions?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Most arguments against gay marriage are based on religious morality. Religion has no place in government.
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why does there need to be harm? What harm does it do? And if it's just right to contract, then why not civil unions?

    Why don't anti gay marriage people argue to take the word "marriage" off the State issued contracts for every one?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why does there need to be harm? What harm does it do? And if it's just right to contract, then why not civil unions?
    All Opinions Are Local - Why the word 'marriage' matters

    If it's a matter of what we choose to call it (civil unions vs. marriage), then it becomes a semantic debate instead of a substantive one. If it looks like a marriage, quacks like a marriage, and walks like a marriage, why the hell not just call it a marriage? If gay civil unions are given the same basic legal rights as marriages, then doesn't it become a marriage in all but name only, substantively speaking? If that's the issue, then we're just arguing over what to call something as opposed to reality and substance, which I think is just stupid.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why does there need to be harm? What harm does it do? And if it's just right to contract, then why not civil unions?
    Harm is the halmark. People should be free to do as they like so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others in the process. If no harm is coming to you or others, your rights are not being infringed upon, then it's really none of your business what others do and they should be free to pursue their own happiness. As for Civil Unions, those are fine so long as there is no Marriage License. But so long as the Marriage License exists as a government issued and recognized contract; there is no just argument for forbidding same sex couples from engaging in it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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