View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Watch how I debate Goshin on this issue. Or Baron for the most part. Or Jerry. These people debate the issue reasonably, either with logic or with their belief systems used as reasons for their position. I have no issue with discussing the issue with them. But folks who come here and say "homosexuality is unnatural", "homosexuality is a mental illness", "homosexuality is a perversion", "homosexuality is just a choice", or many other illogical things or things that can be proven wrong, I WILL go after them and these issues. Usually what happens when I do, is the cognitive dissonance that is formed by being shown that their position is not logical, causes them to get upset and then THEY start to post aggressively. It is not my fault that I have proven their logic faulty.

    If you are conflicted on the issue, again, I have no issue with that. There are three positions you can have that would make sense to me: 1) Pro: logic and evidence based; 2) Anti: faith based; 3) Elimination of marriage altogether. Whatever your position, I can point out the positives or negatives of each and help you to understand the issue better.
    Well, in that it has to do with reconciling it with my faith, I don't think there's much you can help with (I do sincerely appreciate the offer). I just wish a discussion about this didn't have to be met with such hostility if you're not immediately and whole-heartedly in favor. /shrug

    Ah well, as I've said, it's an emotional issue. What can ya do?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And you believe you're objective? Seems you're getting angry already.
    I'm not getting angry, just pointing out what I'm saying. I have yet to see a logical reason why SSM should be denied legally.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm not getting angry, just pointing out what I'm saying. I have yet to see a logical reason why SSM should be denied legally.
    And I'm saying it's not a purely logical issue.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm not getting angry, just pointing out what I'm saying. I have yet to see a logical reason why SSM should be denied legally.
    Marriage has no place in the government. Expanding the "service" to others would only serve to entrench a flawed system.

    Is that illogical? Irrational?


    Edit: I edited the wrong post and erased a bunch of explanation for the above. Oh well.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Marriage has no place in the government. Expanding the "service" to others would only serve to entrench a flawed system.

    Is that illogical? Irrational?
    To be fair, Eco, state sanctioned marriage is not going anywhere and we all know it.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And I'm saying it's not a purely logical issue.
    Why should laws be based on anything other than logic?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    I support same sex marriage because I believe in the sanctity of marriage. Marriage and family are the bedrock of the nation and excluding homosexuals from it is foolish when we should be doing everything in our power to encourage them to take part.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To be fair, Eco, state sanctioned marriage is not going anywhere and we all know it.
    A fair counter, but I think this issue is hot enough to change the system.


    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I support same sex marriage because I believe in the sanctity of marriage. Marriage and family are the bedrock of the nation and excluding homosexuals from it is foolish when we should be doing everything in our power to encourage them to take part.
    You are a consistent social engineer and I see where you are coming from.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Why should laws be based on anything other than logic?
    Well "logic" is subjective. To you, SSM is perfectly logical (and I totally get why, I really do). To someone else, the thought of two people of the same sex getting married defies logic.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A fair counter, but I think this issue is hot enough to change the system.
    Frankly, I think this entire "anti-marriage" argument is a bunch of frustrated conservatives saying that if they have to share their toys with gays, they're going to pack them up and go home.

    Marriage is a fundamental institution in any civilized society and must be preserved at all costs.

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