View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Thanks, Mac...I appreciate your opinions.
    Prego.

    My position is that there is a majority conclusion that people (in general) don't have the ability to define the institution of marriage for themselves. There is no legal precedence for it. I doubt that we'll ever see a Constitutional Amendment defining what marriage is. Consequently, the institution itself will be subject to very diverse views and beliefs.
    Wrong, there is legal precedent. DOMA and something like 30 states have ammendments defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

    If I grew up in a neighborhood that is predominately gay, which also had a high number of gay marriages. As a straight man, regardless of their views on what constitutes marriage would be relativity no interest to me for one really important reason. Their views, their values, their principles would never alter my perceptions and understanding of what the institution of marriage is for me...BECAUSE I'm not gay. I can't be co-opted or influenced to be other than heterosexual.
    I don't really think that's what the oppostion stems from except for the real homophobes out there. It's human nature for human societies to regulate their bahavior in accordance with it's morals.

    I don't bear the responsibilities of any other couples marriage...and nor they with mine. We are all so busy trying to just live life that the details fade with the seconds, minutes, hours, and days.
    So?

    As I've said before...and most will disagree, but in regards to homosexuality's role in humanity, even with all it's mysteries, it's controversies, it's social stigmas - it's shameful that homosexuality is still viewed with so much dark age thinking, fear, myths, superstition, and personal insecurities still cripples the minds of many in a highly advanced civilization.
    Or the opposite could be true....maybe there is some inherited aversion that is there for a reason. To be honest, your opinion above is no more valid than the tinfoil one I just offered.

    We live in a society where many refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that "circumstance of birth" exist when the "preponderance" of evidence leans more to the building scientific research that that is indeed the reality of humanity's existence.

    Humanity is currently incapable of living in a world without "unnecessary" prejudices and discrimination.

    People will leave claw marks in an effort to resist change. But change won't wait for any of us.

    Mac...your right, "it is what it is." That said, can anyone ever accept, "we are what we are?"
    There will always be those that resist change and there will always be those that demand change. It's the constant struggle that keeps us from going headlong into the abyss or from stagnating in immobilization. It is what it is.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Irrelevant. They are granted rights by virtue of being human.
    You mean like the right to life?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Great, you got me on poor wording. Touche.
    If that's true, I also got Oscar and BlackDog, because they came to a conclusion based on your 'poor wording'.

    And thank you for spelling touche properly. Seriously, I have an issue when people "Hooked on phonics worked for me!" their way through a sentence, rather than consulting a dictionary.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You mean like the right to life?
    If and when a society grants that right, sure.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You mean like the right to life?
    I don't believe changing the subject is good form.

    Gays have inalienable human rights.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You mean like the right to life?
    ouch.....
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I don't believe changing the subject is good form.

    Gays have inalienable human rights.
    as do all things human.

    let's be fair, if you can't discriminate against a human because of their sexual orientation then surely you can't discriminate against them simply because they haven't been born yet. neither made a conscious decision to adopt their condition
    Last edited by OscarB63; 05-31-11 at 12:34 PM.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If and when a society grants that right, sure.
    life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness ring a bell?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I think we should remove Christians right to marry in America and only let people marry once they renounce God.

    Would you have a problem with that Mac? Because I really don't see how that would be unfair or discriminatory to anybody in society. You'd still be a Christian, you'd just have to pretend to be an atheist and publicly renounce God to get married.

    I don't see a problem with that, and I don't see why you would... Equal rights and all that.
    You have nothing to say about this Mac?

    I know, I know... you don't live by the golden rule. Treat people how you want to be treated and all that.... so of course you don't think society should treat YOU how you want to treat homosexuals.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    ouch.....
    Only an ouch in your mind. In reality, it was obvious he changed the subject because he was losing ground on the actual point of the debate.

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