View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I want to know why they think my potential family is less deserving of the legal benefits that come with marriage, and how it helps family, and children.
    So do I.

    Lately, I've been entertaining a little thought in my mind of all this ending, and us finding out that the people who took the hardest stance against that which they didn't bother trying to comprehend, had to reincarnate. As that which they despised. Good times.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I do. Current marriage laws are not gender discriminatory.
    Oh please, if we made a marriage application gender blind... this conversation wouldn't be an issue. Gender is the center of the debate.

    If you don't agree, then remove gender from the marriage application.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    Again 100% false, everything you said is false and your new statment is also false.

    They are VERY clearly different and distinguishable.
    Legal marriage comes with legal rights tied to that contract.
    Religious marriage comes with Religious benefits and merits.
    Religious marriages has ZERO ties to legal marriage it can totally exist without it.
    Legal marriage has ZERO ties to religious marriage its can totally exist without it.

    Sorry you are 100% wrong.

    Those are the facts sorry you misunderstand this somehow.
    Roughly 2.3 million marriages happen each year. If I line up all 2.3 million couples and ask you to pick out those that are religiously married and those that are not, can you do that with 100% accuracy?

    Of course you can't. Many of the 2.3 million have a religious and civil connection. Of those that are religious, most are civil....so how do you separate the two? The answer is that you can't.

    You also need a lesson on the origin of marriage in our society. Up until King Henry the VIII created the Church of England, marriage was not regulated by the government. It was solely handled by the church. When the church became the government, the line that divided church from state was lost. The first act of Henry the VIII as the head of state and church was to change the church's interpretation (and thus the state's) to allow for divorce under Henry's idea of a good reason. Since then, our society has been forced to accept the bastardized version of marriage as it was under Henry the VIII. To say that religious marriage and civil marriage are not entangled and indistinguishable is to admit that you don't know the recent history of marriage.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    For instance:

    After 60 Years, a Deep Desire to Make It 'Legal' - NYTimes.com

    Can you even imagine? Sixty years together! But they can't get married.

    Richard Adrian Dorr first sang for John Mace at the Juilliard School of Music in 1948: a rendition of the show tune “All the Things You Are,” in which the singer elegantly explains all the wonderful things his lover is to him.

    Mr. Mace knew the song intimately and he accompanied Mr. Dorr on piano, with no sheet music.

    The song ends with the hope that, “someday I’ll know this moment divine, when all the things you are, are mine.”

    For Mr. Mace, who is 91, and Mr. Dorr, 83, that moment divine would come with a marriage in New York City where the couple has lived together for more than 60 years.

    “Our friends have told us, ‘You two guys should get married in Massachusetts or Connecticut,’ but we’ve always been New Yorkers, and after 61 years of togetherness, we feel we have a right to be married in New York,” Mr. Mace said recently inside the sprawling apartment on West End Avenue and 96th Street in Manhattan where the couple, both of whom are voice teachers, live and work.

    They have taught the likes of Bette Midler, Vanessa Redgrave, Natasha Richardson, Kim Basinger and Marsha Mason.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I want to know why (phrasing a bit differently than in the opening post) people think SSM would be such a horrible thing. It won't hurt them. It won't impact on them. It will help a great many people take the "next step" in their walk of life, together.
    Legally I have no problem with it anymore, none at all. My problem is I feel I am saying it is OK, and I don't think it is. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying gays are anything less than anyone else. I would no more want to contribute to someone's sin of homosexuality than I would someone wanting to commit adultery. They are to me both morally wrong.

    So in a way it does affect me even if not directly from a secular point of view.

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    So. Since it has Nothing To Do With YOU, why can't you just accept that a) gays are born, and b) they should have the same rights we do, inclusive of the right to marry their dearly beloved.
    Again no evidence shows gays are born. The evidence suggest it is multiple factors from again external and internal factors.

    As for the second part, see above.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Oh please, if we made a marriage application gender blind... this conversation wouldn't be an issue. Gender is the center of the debate.

    If you don't agree, then remove gender from the marriage application.
    I love that idea!!

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Legally I have no problem with it anymore, none at all. My problem is I feel I am saying it is OK, and I don't think it is. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying gays are anything less than anyone else. I would no more want to contribute to someone's sin of homosexuality than I would someone wanting to commit adultery. They are to me both morally wrong.

    So in a way it does affect me even if not directly from a secular point of view.



    Again no evidence shows gays are born. The evidence suggest it is multiple factors from again external and internal factors.

    As for the second part, see above.
    I think K. D. Lang and Liberace show that gays are born.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    selfishness
    hypocrisy
    ignorance
    bigotry
    arrogance

    and one or multiple of these if we are talking about this country and equality. Theres probably more but I can't think of any.
    Some of those and none of those.

    Keep painting with that HUGE brush.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    That's okay. She wasn't talking to you.
    LOL....you just can't resist the personal attacks can you? Too bad you can easily be proven wrong by looking at the two posts to see we quoted each other in a one on one volley.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I think K. D. Lang and Liberace show that gays are born.
    I think that is not scientific proof of anything. I can introduce you to gay men and women who were not born that way.

    As soon as you can show me something like a gene for sexuality I will believe you.

    PS: No evidence at all exists that sexuality gay or straight is physical, none.

    PSS: In the case of transsexuals (people who think they are the opposite sex) evidence does exist that it may have a link to the Brain structure being male or female. This is not apparent in gay men and women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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