View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Should have said most, my bad.
    Now please Star, why did you feel you had to add all in the spur of the moment? When I never said anything like that?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What I do not like is you pretending to be all civilized and needing to turn away from the attacking and degrading arguments of the other side, only to present your own demonization.

    Reading you is just like reading a rabid pro-lifer or anti-SSMer. Nothing but absolute claims and insults.
    We're not reading the same person. How strange.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    I don't think the gays who based their entire lifestyle on their sexuality are all that different than the Christians who based their entire lifestyle on their religion.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To be fair, Eco, state sanctioned marriage is not going anywhere and we all know it.
    And as long as it remains, then everybody who is of legal age and free to do so, (i.e., not currently married) should have the right to wed.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    This sounds SOME of the straight frat brothers I used to go to college with. You're not describing a gay lifestyle - you're describing promiscuity, sexual insecurity, attention whoring and immaturity (although one could also display this in a positive light and call it "being comfortable with one's sexuality"). These are characteristics that some gay and straight men and women have.


    Again, not a gay lifestyle. These are traits of human beings (gay and straight) and they have become a stereotype of gay men.


    There are gay men like this and oftentimes, they are younger, just like young straight men (and women) revolve their entire lives around sexual conquests, etc. However, when these people mature, that whole "sex is everything" mentality tends to change. I think you need to meet a greater variety of gay men and straight women as well. There are a lot of gay men who don't participate in the gay lifestyle as you have described it and there are a lot of straight women who do.
    Your whole argument is useless as I already said "men in general." The problem is also as I have mentioned that too many gay men think that their sexuality IS their life.

    I have lived around and with all kinds of gay people all my life. I can say with certainty, it is the lifestyle for a large percentage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    What is the conflict for you? I've actually always wanted to start a thread in the Abortion Forum like this... since I am really on the fence about abortion. But, you have an opportunity here, to present your conflict and have people, hopefully, give you straight feedback and try to help you expand your positions... either pro or anti. Give it a shot.
    Thank you, because that's what I'm looking for.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't think the gays who based their entire lifestyle on their sexuality are all that different than the Christians who based their entire lifestyle on their religion.


    Yea keep em coming.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    IF we need some kind of government contract for sharing responsibility, we can go with civil unions. To some extent this is not so different than marriage, but I believe it is in an important way - it drops all the baggage and takes 'marriage' (some read: religion) out of government.

    My solution is to address the source of the problem. Addressing a symptom of the problem by expanding the problem is not reasonable to me. I do not see expanding the source of the problem as a rational solution. Let's just accept that the word 'marriage' might have religious connotations and drop it.

    If someone cannot see the above(s) as a logical and rational objection to SSM, that's their (overly-emotional) problem.




    I'm not arguing to keep things the same. Both of us are arguing for a change, but only one of us is arguing to expand governmental social engineering as some kind of (emotionally misguided) solution.
    So what if two women of faith want to get married in a church, you'd say get thee to the courthouse?

    In your - [insert words here for how you think things should be] world, What is it called after that. If marriage is abolished, then nobody is married, and they don't have a marriage, right?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Now please Star, why did you feel you had to add all in the spur of the moment? When I never said anything like that?
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