View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Not if marriage just becomes a way to get certain legal benefits. If one of my buddies is having financial trouble, I could "marry" him and put him on my insurance or whatever.
    Or your buddy could currently find a girl who is willing to marry him in the same arrangement and put him on her insurance. I know a girl who was a civilian who was perfectly willing to enter into these kind of marriages for the benefits she got from it.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    Only if you leave out reality logic common sense and rational and play word games.
    Is that how you view handicap access also?
    Not so much, I'm afraid.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    When "marriage" is just understood to mean nothing more than a legal contract, yes.

    That is up to the couple and some do view it jut as a contract. And if that effects your marriage that is your and yours partners problem.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    A couple of pedophiles could do that now. There are pedophiles of both genders. And you don't have to be married to adopt children in most places. What some people may or may not do should not determine whether we give equal treatment under the law. We do our best to try to prevent those who would take advantage of something from doing so.
    There are far more male pedos than there are women pedos.

    This was just one example. Honestly, you and Mac have gotten me thinking along these lines. I hadn't considered what could happen if you take the idea of "family" out of marriage.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    I still want to know why I shouldn't be able to marry my imaginary hot sister!

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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Alright, I'm gonna put my serious hat on and say this:

    I think X has a point. When marriage is available to everyone and any two individuals who want to get together purely for the financial benefits, then yes, at that point the value of marriage would become significantly degraded.
    Thanks SB, you're the only one who gets what I'm trying to say here.

    On the flip side, as long as YOUR marriage means something to you, why should you care if someone else's marriage is effectively meaningless?
    I could ask the same about commitment ceremonies between gays now. Nobody's saying they can't do that.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    There are far more male pedos than there are women pedos.
    And they can already just as easily adopt children by moving to another state instead of bothering with marriage.

    Most pedos are not going to bother to get married just to get children to molest, especially since, they would have to actually deal with the children and be responsible for them, not just molest them and leave. I highly doubt that most pedos would prefer to adopt their victims rather than just find them, molest them, and not have the responsibility of raising them.

    Wanna show some evidence that this should be a major concern that couldn't be dealt with by just thorough background checks for anyone trying to adopt children, no matter their sexuality or marital status?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This was just one example. Honestly, you and Mac have gotten me thinking along these lines. I hadn't considered what could happen if you take the idea of "family" out of marriage.
    Family is a part of most marriages. There is a small percentage of couples who marry with the belief that it is just for benefits, since most people don't want to be bothered with the hassle of divorce procedures when/if they meet someone that they would prefer to be actually in a married relationship with.

    The best way to limit abuse of marriage for benefits alone is to keep the number of marriages limited or the number of marriage partners limited. I am not completely against polygamy, but this is a valid concern for that particular issue, since the majority of people prefer monogamy but could also see the benefit of not having to choose between love or benefits.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Thanks SB, you're the only one who gets what I'm trying to say here.



    I could ask the same about commitment ceremonies between gays now. Nobody's saying they can't do that.
    Well, the issue here is that there are many legal benefits besides the financial ones that heterosexual married couples are entitled to, but gay couples aren't.

    I assume it's because of this complex situation that many people say we should just get the state out of marriage altogether.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    That is up to the couple and some do view it jut as a contract. And if that effects your marriage that is your and yours partners problem.
    Interesting, I thought a hetero marriage that wasn't consummated could be annulled. So, if that's the case, you're imposing something on opposite married folks (to fulfill the contract) that wouldn't be imposed on same sex couples.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Alright, I'm gonna put my serious hat on and say this:

    I think X has a point. When marriage is available to everyone and any two individuals who want to get together purely for the financial benefits, then yes, at that point the value of marriage would become significantly degraded.

    On the flip side, as long as YOUR marriage means something to you, why should you care if someone else's marriage is effectively meaningless?
    The only way to effectively cut back on marriage being done for benefits alone though is to instill the belief within the culture that marriage should be for love. The government cannot legally determine that same sex couples are more likely to be in it for the benefits than opposite sex couples, not without getting into how to legally define "love".
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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