View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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Thread: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Not if marriage just becomes a way to get certain legal benefits. If one of my buddies is having financial trouble, I could "marry" him and put him on my insurance or whatever.
    you could, but then you'd be a faggot4lyf!
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So what another couple does affects your marriage, like divorce say?
    A couple of pedophiles could get married in order to make it easier to adopt children, but, you're right, it doesn't affect me so I guess that'd be ok.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    you could, but then you'd be a faggot4lyf!
    Oh no, not when marriage becomes nothing more than a legal contract.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    A couple of pedophiles could get married in order to make it easier to adopt children, but, you're right, it doesn't affect me so I guess that'd be ok.

    Would it make your marriage meaningless?
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    Then this really does make the notion of marriage absolutely meaningless.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    A couple of pedophiles could get married in order to make it easier to adopt children, but, you're right, it doesn't affect me so I guess that'd be ok.
    A couple of pedophiles could do that now. There are pedophiles of both genders. And you don't have to be married to adopt children in most places. What some people may or may not do should not determine whether we give equal treatment under the law. We do our best to try to prevent those who would take advantage of something from doing so.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I'm not talking in circles. The fact is homosexuals are asking for a right no one else has. That's just a fact, from a cold hard legal perspective.
    By that same logic, though, everyone will obtain this new right. So everyone benefits equally. No one gets special treatment, no one is given an advantage. We all benefit. The fact that you don't plan to exercise the right is immaterial. There are many many rights we have that we do not take advantage of.

    Of course, this assumes that the constitution does not already provide for SSM, given the right to privacy established in Griswold v. Connecticut, which was one of the foundations for Roe v. Wade. Like it or not, these rulings are foundations for American law, and SSM fits with these rulings.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Oh no, not when marriage becomes nothing more than a legal contract.
    Legal marriage is nothing more than a legal contract, although it is a legal contract that is generally harder to mutually get out of than some other contracts. Personal marriage should be whatever the couple personally wants it to be. For most people, including myself, marriage is much more than the contract. The contract is there to protect us as a couple, and each of us individually.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    A couple of pedophiles could do that now. There are pedophiles of both genders. And you don't have to be married to adopt children in most places. What some people may or may not do should not determine whether we give equal treatment under the law. We do our best to try to prevent those who would take advantage of something from doing so.

    Heck they can just go out and kidnap kids like that married male female couple did with Elizabeth Smart.

    I guess that made marriages meaningless too.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Alright, I'm gonna put my serious hat on and say this:

    I think X has a point. When marriage is available to everyone and any two individuals who want to get together purely for the financial benefits, then yes, at that point the value of marriage would become significantly degraded.

    On the flip side, as long as YOUR marriage means something to you, why should you care if someone else's marriage is effectively meaningless?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Would it make your marriage meaningless?
    When "marriage" is just understood to mean nothing more than a legal contract, yes.
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