View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by stillballin75 View Post
    everyone knows the navy turns you gay.
    doh!!

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Genetic problems with offspring, and general icky-ness.
    only if you choose to have offspring.

    FWIW, I'm not too big on the animal comparisons when it comes to gay marriage, but I'd like to point out that there are many cases in the animal kingdom where incest is actually necessary.

    if my standard for barring people from marriage was icky-ness, then I would deny obese people the right to marry.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, you're being dishonest, unless of course you consider homosexuality a handicap.
    Nice try what but thats not what I said I clearly said it involves reality, logic and rational.
    Those things point out that handicap need ramps and rails even though others dont, so they also point out gays need to marry the same sex because, well, are you ready for this logical, rational, reality bomb, THATS WHAT THEY LOVE AND ARE ATTRACTED TOO and its is another consenting human just like straights

    Do your tactics of avoiding logic and talking in circles every work on anybody?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    It allows diseased individuals another means of pretending they're normal. If fulfills their denial and prevents them from seekin much needed assistance.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    It allows diseased individuals another means of pretending they're normal. If fulfills their denial and prevents them from seekin much needed assistance.
    speaking of diseased individuals pretending to be normal, maybe we should bar people who speak in the third person from marrying as well.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    Nice try what but thats not what I said I clearly said it involves reality, logic and rational.
    Those things point out that handicap need ramps and rails even though others dont, so they also point out gays need to marry the same sex because, well, are you ready for this logical, rational, reality bomb, THATS WHAT THEY LOVE AND ARE ATTRACTED TOO and its is another consenting human just like straights

    Do your tactics of avoiding logic and talking in circles every work on anybody?
    I'm not talking in circles. The fact is homosexuals are asking for a right no one else has. That's just a fact, from a cold hard legal perspective.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    playing devil's advocate here - what is the rationale for being against incest marriage?

    if i had a sister that was super-hot and I was madly in love with her I'd want to marry her too.

    Well if there was no gentic issue to worry about honestly I wouldn't stop you because its none of my business.

    Lets not forget it used to be a lot more common back in the day and any religion that started with two people had to have lots of incest happening to get where we are today.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I'm not talking in circles. The fact is homosexuals are asking for a right no one else has. That's just a fact, from a cold hard legal perspective.
    Only if you leave out reality logic common sense and rational and play word games.
    Is that how you view handicap access also?
    PURE STUPIDITY 1.) Glenn Beck doesnt lie. 2.) Obama is Jesus like 3.) Sara Palin is so smart & shes a great speaker. 4.) Obama does just about everything perfect. 5.) Fox doesn' t lean right 6.) Pro-Choice is no different than Pro-Slavery 7.) MSNBC doesn't lean left. 8.) What TSA does is no different than sexual assault & child porn.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's kinda how I feel about SSM, funny that.
    Not really. There are differences in the types of relationship and levels of intimacy involved in marriage is generally thought to be more than what goes with family relations. Plus, there is also a difference, in general, in how long the relationship would be expected to last at its current level, including the responsibilities involved.

    As a side note, if they are an old widowed couple, they would most likely not have to adopt each other's kids, since their kids would most likely be adults.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I agree, civil unions.
    Either for all, including opposite sex marriage-level relationships, or for certain types based on level of responsibility and relationship that is not based on the sex of the two involved.


    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Talk about slippery slopes....
    Explain. I'm pretty sure I made no slippery slope argument there at all. In fact, I didn't really even make and argument, just gave my opinion on a type of relationship and whether they should be allowed legal marriages or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No they don't. For example, you are using people of different ethnicities as a precedent for marriage between people of the same gender. That's not identical.
    But that is not the only part of my argument. I have never argued that because interracial marriages have been legalized, that is the only reason to allow SSM. I use interracial marriages as a big comparison and foundation for the right, not as the entire argument. I always bring in how marriage is legally treated and what the differences between all opposite sex couples who are married and all same sex couples who want to be married are. The only difference is the fact that they are of the opposite sex, since we currently allow people of the opposite sex to marry who cannot procreate and whether something is considered a sin or not is not a valid argument alone to justify discrimination.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    Well if there was no gentic issue to worry about honestly I wouldn't stop you because its none of my business.

    Lets not forget it used to be a lot more common back in the day and any religion that started with two people had to have lots of incest happening to get where we are today.
    Guru, i'm getting a real kick out of your sig line.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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