View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Of course it is. I don't hear a lot of people clammoring to marry their sister.
    Telll that to SB75....
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I don't think you have shot it to smithereens, and I'm straight and I can't marry everyone I am attracted to.
    Legally, you are able to. Your inability to marry everyone you are attracted to is not limited by the law, but rather personal and social factors.

    That is, unless you are attracted to a child or a minor.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Telll that to SB75....
    if I had a super hot porn star bodied sister all bets are off

    Still, only like two people have given me a response as to why incest marriage shouldn't happen.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I don't think you have shot it to smithereens, and I'm straight and I can't marry everyone I am attracted to.
    Mac, why can't you? I'm assuming because 1) you're already married, and 2) attraction is not mutual. But if both parties want to get married and they are both free to do so, they should have that right.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    if I had a super hot porn star bodied sister all bets are off

    Still, only like two people have given me a response as to why incest marriage shouldn't happen.
    Kindly start your own thread. I can't even verbalize how much I'd appreciate it.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Kindly start your own thread. I can't even verbalize how much I'd appreciate it.
    lol, will do.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I love when people try to use what could happen as a basis for their position on what is happening. The issue is SSM. Whether consent is erradicated in 100 years is irrelevant to the discussion. You keep throwing out irrelevancies like polygamy, incest, apple tree, toasters, lack of consent, etc... None of these things have any LOGICAL bearing on the issue. If they do to you, it is because you are not debating logically, but are diverting away from the simple fact that your position is faith based... not logic based.
    My position is faith based, you are absolutely right. Beyond that I don't see it as discrimination (which may be changing), and I won't ignore the moral fabric harm that most don't feel has any merit. You can call it slippery slope, domino effect, or anything you like. The fact is, many civil rights advances have had unforseen effects to marraige and society and this one will too.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is probably the most reasonable solution. Complete separation. Government handles civil unions for all... straights and gays, and religion handles marriage. Each religion can determine what type of marriage they will recognize, whereas the government recognizes both. Very simple solution.
    I agree with this completely.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Whether it offends me or not is irrelevant to it's legality.
    I don't beleive that to be true. Limits on pornography, sex, explicit lyrics, etc, say otherwise.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Understood, however I still disagree that banning SSM is gender discrimination since both genders have equal access to the same rights and are both dissalowed the same rights equally.
    But tehy don't have access to the same rights.

    You agreed that the statement is true that a man can marry a woman, but a woman can't.

    Why can't she? Because she's a woman? IE, she's prevented from doing something based on her gender.

    Flip this to something else...

    Instead of "opposite sex" we go with "Opposite view regarding the existance of god".

    So everyone is free to marry someone of the "opposite view regarding the existance of god".

    This would mean that athiests could marry religious people, and religious people could marry athiests. However athiests can't marry each other and religious people can't marry each other.

    Would that be constitutional in your mind? Would that be discriminating against ones religion? Or would it be okay because both sides have the same right...IE the ability to marry the opposite of their religious views regarding a god?

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