View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This rant is so very rich coming from you.
    You accusing me of something?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    which should stay out of political decisions being how they pay no taxes.
    We don't?!?!

    Tell that to the federal government who keeps taking chunks out of my paycheck.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You accusing me of something?
    You post dishonestly all the time.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I haven't accused you of anything, and the only option I have to do what you ask is relate it to things people still recognize as being indirectly harmful. There are plenty of things we regulate for the sake of perceived harm...not just ban SSM.
    I can give you some expected harm from the two examples you gave me. Generally, the argument against being naked in public and certainly having sex in public is about how children observing sex, especially at young ages, can be detrimental to their developing natural sexual maturity and how nudity can be viewed as a sexual act in itself. I really don't agree with either of these things, but again they would both be a part of different arguments that the state and those who want to challenge these laws would need to make.

    A part of the argument for the side of those challenging laws should be how the laws harm them in some way. The two should be weighed in connection to each other. It should not be a one-sided argument for what harm might come from the action if allowed, but also include what harm comes from restricting the action.

    Now, give me the possible harm that might be caused from allowing same sex couples to get married, while allowing them civil unions or at least the rights that come with civil unions (since you are for giving them the rights just not the word "marriage"). If you want to retract that you are actually for same sex civil unions, then you need to show the harm that might be come from allowing same sex marriage or civil unions while keeping in mind that their relationships are completely legal and the only thing that they are affecting in getting such unions is contract law and the laws that go with marriage contracts.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I haven't accused you of anything,
    You accused me of not being willing to accept any example of harm that you gave me if you might present.

    I may not agree with you that what you might post is an actual harm, but I will not just ignore it and it is not right that you automatically assume what I will do before you present your information. I will make an effort (as I usually try to do for everything) to refute your possible harm with logical arguments for why it should not be legally considered harm or for why the harm caused by not allowing same sex couples marriage rights is more important.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Mac... I left this conversation hours ago when "the HARM" issue was brought in. Now you are using it in a passive-aggressive way. The context was appropriate to the question "does gay marriage impose damage or negative impact on society as a whole.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You post dishonestly all the time.
    Like when?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Like when?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059527946
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Like when?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059527936
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's why I said it isn't any more discriminatory than.....
    It doesn't need to be more discriminatory then.

    45 mph in a 45 mph zone isn't speeding. 45 in a 34 mph zone is. 45 mph isn't any faster than 45 mph, but that doesn't mean its not speeding in one case.

    The discrimination may not be any more than in the case of age discrimination, but age discrimination is a lower tier of the EPC than age, so it doesn't necessarily NEED to be more discriminatory.

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