View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    hmm, makes me wonder if public decency laws are a violation of the 1st amendment. Just wondering.
    Believe they've been upheld repeatedly. Not looked at them very closely to be honest

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Except it can't unless on attempts to broadly speak about it in an attempt to hide the specifics.
    I don't understand this. There was no attempt on my part to "hide" anything. NOBODY is allowed to marry someone of the same gender is just, well true.


    There's no gender discrimination in not allowing polygamy. There is with marriage
    What if a guy wants to marry two other guys?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    oh no, it's not jealousy it's just greed

    Meh there is plenty of me to go around and I ain't talking about my waistline. Bring on the wives ohhhh rah!

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Believe they've been upheld repeatedly. Not looked at them very closely to be honest
    Here's what I'm getting from my favorite source, wikipedia:

    Public indecency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In the most states of the United States, state law prohibits exposure of the genitals and/or the female breast in a public place, while in other states[which?] simple nudity is legal, but evidence of intent to shock, arouse or offend other persons (lewd conduct) is evidence of prohibited conduct. For example, in most states[which?], it is a criminal offense punishable by fines and/or imprisonment, and/or registered sex offender requirements and restrictions. Some states permit local governments to set local standards. Public nudity itself has not been a crime throughout California since a 2000 Appellate Court ruling, and prosecutions and convictions are unheard of, but arrests do still occur, though they also are unusual,[2] and Vermont only prohibits "open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior"[3] so many forms of public nudity are legal.
    In many countries men's and women's bare buttocks are not legal in public area. However, while women's bare buttocks are considered sexually obscene, men's bare buttocks are merely considered rude.
    Indecent exposure is defined as a crime in the United States Armed Forces by Article 120(n), Uniform Code of Military Justice. The changes to Article 120 became part of the Manual for Courts-Martial in the 2008 edition.[4]
    Interesting, is there a Constitutional right to not be aroused, shocked, or offended?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't understand this. There was no attempt on my part to "hide" anything. NOBODY is allowed to marry someone of the same gender is just, well true.


    What if a guy wants to marry two other guys?
    It's like saying every race can use a water fountain. It'd a generalization that hides that when you look at the specifics, one race can use one water fountain and another race can use a different water fountain.

    In this case, stating same or opposite sex is a generalization hiding then fact that in the specifics one gender can marry a gender that the other gender can't.

    Men can marry women.

    Women can't marry women.

    Women are denied the ability to do something men can do on the basis of their gender.

    That's gender discrimination that isn't present in polygamy. When you look at gender specifics there, men can't marry multiple people and women cant marry multiple people so theres no gender discrimination happening

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How does a teacher having sex with a student equal abuse?
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    Statutory rape. An adult using their position to coerce a child into making a choice theyre not legally able to make
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    I don't understand this. There was no attempt on my part to "hide" anything. NOBODY is allowed to marry someone of the same gender is just, well true.


    What if a guy wants to marry two other guys?
    Truthfully, the institution of marriage is a joke. Who takes it seriously anymore? Who really stays with another person for life? For better or for worst.
    -I mean with the Evangelicals getting divorced at the same rate as the non religious, the whole concept is outdated. Nowadays, it is a tax status.

    Imo, if people want to marry their dog, I can't really see why I should give a crap. If the government ended the special tax status and gave this issue to the states, I would support that.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't understand this. There was no attempt on my part to "hide" anything. NOBODY is allowed to marry someone of the same gender is just, well true.
    NOBODY was allowed to marry someone of a different race in the south once upon a time. It's still discrimination. There is no discrimination by not allowing polygamy.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Here's what I'm getting from my favorite source, wikipedia:

    Public indecency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Interesting, is there a Constitutional right to not be aroused, shocked, or offended?
    Here's my understanding of it.

    Its been established that free speech CAN have limits. Specifically when it violates another persons rights substantially.

    There are certain things that by and large society finds to be "obscene" and that society has a reasonable expectation of not running into in "public". If these things are ran into in a private setting, then that's perfectly fine because you shouldn't have an expectation of not seeing it. However, in a public setting, its not okay.

    That's of course as assuming the laws didn't violate the constitution in other ways...such as suggesting being black in public is offensive, etc.

    I think, in a general sense, many of the laws are unconstitutional. At the same time, some are legitimate...such as if pornography is illegal for people under 18 to view, its reasonable to suggest that pornographic images shouldn't be in public as a parent has a reasonable expectation to assume their children won't be exposed to something illegal while traversing the public byways. The more questionable, non-constitutional ones though fall in the category of blue laws for me. Something that is affecting so few people, and is enforced so rarely, that it'd probably be more trouble and cost in attempting to actually do anything about them then it is to just ignore it.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    NOBODY was allowed to marry someone of a different race in the south once upon a time. It's still discrimination. There is no discrimination by not allowing polygamy.
    Well, there is discrimination, but none that rises to the level of unconstitutionality.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The harm doesn't have to be physical, no. Is there non-physical harm with SSM? Removable Mind asked this question like 10 times and only got one straight answer.
    I guess that depends on the amount of stock you put in a person or people's general feeling of wellbeing and acceptance with and within their society.
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