View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Does there have to be physical harm for there to be harm to society?
    The harm doesn't have to be physical, no. Is there non-physical harm with SSM? Removable Mind asked this question like 10 times and only got one straight answer.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    What I was replying to was TPD saying that "NOBODY is allowed to marry two women" as a way to distinguish polygamy from SSM. I was just pointing out the same argument can apply to SSM.
    Except it can't unless on attempts to broadly speak about it in an attempt to hide the specifics.

    There's no gender discrimination in not allowing polygamy. There is with marriage

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How does a teacher having sex with a student equal abuse?
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Statutory rape. An adult using their position to coerce a child into making a choice theyre not legally able to make
    Exactly. I can't believe that is actually being questioned.

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    An adult using his or her position to get sex from a minor IS abuse. Plain and simple.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I said this yesterday, I see no good reason, in principle, why polygamy should be illegal.

    same goes for incest marriage if they choose not to have kids. still waitin' on an answer on why I shouldn't be able to marry my imaginary hot sister.
    Under our current legal system, there are a large number of laws that would need to be sizably changed or outright removed.

    Power of attorney, no longer would it equal your spouse being given that right automatically. Ditto with regards to inheretence if no will I present? Is it just split amongst all spouses or based on time married or what? What happens if a man marries a wife, who marries a wife, who marries another man...but none are actually married to the others. Then the second man divorces the wife....does he have claim to a fourth of what the first woman owns and an eight of what the first man owns since the woman he married has a claim of half of what her wife has and her wife has a claim of half of what her husband has? In divorces, would the biological mother or the wife who took care of the child as the mother the most have rights. And on and on. There is a FAR larger and more in depth issue with our legal system when it comes to changes for polygamy rather than SSM

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    No. Polygamist can have a religious marriage in a church. They just don't have a legally recognized marriage.
    Same is true for SSM.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Against the rules maybe, but illegal? Is is illegal for two teens to engage in sex?
    Sex is illegal in public. A public school is considered a public place and it's as illegal to bang in it's stairwells and bathrooms as it is to do it in the malls stairwell or bathroom.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Under our current legal system, there are a large number of laws that would need to be sizably changed or outright removed.

    Power of attorney, no longer would it equal your spouse being given that right automatically. Ditto with regards to inheretence if no will I present? Is it just split amongst all spouses or based on time married or what? What happens if a man marries a wife, who marries a wife, who marries another man...but none are actually married to the others. Then the second man divorces the wife....does he have claim to a fourth of what the first woman owns and an eight of what the first man owns since the woman he married has a claim of half of what her wife has and her wife has a claim of half of what her husband has? In divorces, would the biological mother or the wife who took care of the child as the mother the most have rights. And on and on. There is a FAR larger and more in depth issue with our legal system when it comes to changes for polygamy rather than SSM
    blah blah blah I want to be able to marry two or more women, legal complications be damned!
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sex is illegal in public. A public school is considered a public place and it's as illegal to bang in it's stairwells and bathrooms as it is to do it in the malls stairwell or bathroom.
    hmm, makes me wonder if public decency laws are a violation of the 1st amendment. Just wondering.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    blah blah blah I want to be able to marry two or more women, legal complications be damned!
    Most every major study I've shown that looks into polygamy shows a massive tendency to issues of jealousy. I'll pass on a regular two girl thing And the cat fights that go with it

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Most every major study I've shown that looks into polygamy shows a massive tendency to issues of jealousy. I'll pass on a regular two girl thing And the cat fights that go with it
    oh no, it's not jealousy it's just greed
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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