View Poll Results: Same-sex marriage is wrong because

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  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    77 68.14%
  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    16 14.16%
  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    4 3.54%
  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    0 0%
  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    1 0.88%
  • Other (please explain)

    15 13.27%
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    What was the last "hetero pride" parade or event you've heard of?


    Mardi Gras.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So...you'd do something about it?
    With the second reading, yes....my tax dollars go to the school, and if it's happening on school grounds then the activity is illegal, so it's creating a situation that can negtively involve my kid. If it was off school grounds, or at another school, I wouldn't

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Statutory rape. An adult using their position to coerce a child into making a choice theyre not legally able to make
    It is possible that something that doesn't affect you directly can cause harm to society (arguably in this case) and indirectly cause you harm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It is possible that something that doesn't affect you directly can cause harm to society (arguably in this case) and indirectly cause you harm?
    Yes, however nobody has yet to solidly demonstrate that this is the case with SSM.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Using "same" or "opposite" gender is a nonstarter as it's using a broader term to disguise the specifics that actually matter. In this case, men can marry women but women can't marry women, and vise versa.

    Would a law stating one can marry the opposite religious preference be constitutional? So athiests can marry religious people and religious people can marry atheists, but an atheist can't marry another athiest and a religious person cant marry another religious person?

    After all, NOBODY could marry someone of the same view regarding religion
    What I was replying to was TPD saying that "NOBODY is allowed to marry two women" as a way to distinguish polygamy from SSM. I was just pointing out the same argument can apply to SSM.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    With the second reading, yes....my tax dollars go to the school, and if it's happening on school grounds then the activity is illegal, so it's creating a situation that can negtively involve my kid. If it was off school grounds, or at another school, I wouldn't
    Against the rules maybe, but illegal? Is is illegal for two teens to engage in sex?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yes, however nobody has yet to solidly demonstrate that this is the case with SSM.
    Does there have to be physical harm for there to be harm to society?
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Against the rules maybe, but illegal? Is is illegal for two teens to engage in sex?
    Where are you going with this line of questioning, counselor?

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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    What I was replying to was TPD saying that "NOBODY is allowed to marry two women" as a way to distinguish polygamy from SSM. I was just pointing out the same argument can apply to SSM.
    I said this yesterday, I see no good reason, in principle, why polygamy should be illegal.

    same goes for incest marriage if they choose not to have kids. still waitin' on an answer on why I shouldn't be able to marry my imaginary hot sister.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It is possible that something that doesn't affect you directly can cause harm to society (arguably in this case) and indirectly cause you harm?
    It could in which case I'd need sizable proof and evidence that it substantially harms society before acted heavily on it, not just my own personal but feeling.

    And even with that proof, if it was unconstitutional to act against it than id either deal with it or if it bothered me enough work to try and push for amending the constitutional

    For instance, I think slowing the likes of Fred phelps to do what he does harms society, but it's constitutional so I deal with it

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