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Americans: Have you ever considered ex-patriation?

Would you leave America?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 36.4%

  • No

    Votes: 9 27.3%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 10 30.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Total voters
    33
BDBoop said:
After reading The_Patriot's post about his dad's comments following Waco, and knowing my own feelings on the subject, have any of you considered relocating. If so, where would you move and why.
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Yes. I actually made a half-baked attempt at it. I tried to stay to the UK - or anywhere in Europe so I could live in the UK. I went through Europe a few times. I lived and had a year-long visa in New Zealand that I didn't try to renew, but I saw other Americans try and they ran into the same problem I did in Europe.

Pretty much nowhere pleasant in the world actually wants Americans, and it is uniquely hard for them to gain residency or long-term/renewable visas. This is partially due to our own tendency to alienate other countries to the point where they don't want to form any serious ties with us.

I plan to try to move to the UK permanently again, but with a better game plan. You have to really, really want it just to get your foot in the door. Keeping it there is a whole nother battle. Trying to inch forward is a blitzkrieg.
 
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I’ve thought about it (I love me some Canadian girls). :mrgreen:
 
I have no real reason to want to leave. If things really started going to hell over here I suppose I might. Probably go to another English speaking country just so it would be easier.
 
DashingAmerican said:
I'd never move. Albeit, I considered Austailia when Obama got in...more and moreso everyday actually,
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You don't like what Obama's doing, so you'd move to a country with universal health care, strict gun laws and no actual freedom of speech? :lamo
 
Last time I visited Russia the government invited me to move there permanently and offered a university/research position. I declined, but I do enjoy cosmopolitan Moscow.
 
I've only considered the idea if things somehow got really bad in America, and Australia is my first land of choice. But things are not bad in America. People that think things are bad need to get some true global perspective. Visiting tourist destinations in developed countries doesn't count.
 
Honestly, the worse things get here the better it is for me. I've already picked out which of my neighbors I'm going to kill first when the government collapses.
 
BDBoop said:
Surely not anywhere?

When I thought I was going to be rich (don't ask) I seriously considered Panama. I don't know how I feel about Canada, except that it's not so very far away from me.

And of course I don't want to go anywhere where they think of us as "Ugly Americans."
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Why Panama? (seems a rather random choice) personally Im not American but I hoping to get out as soon as possible, I planned to leave even before things got bad economically (just get itchy feet and dislike the culture) but now the economies ****ed its more of a necesitiy.
 
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Viktyr Korimir said:
Honestly, the worse things get here the better it is for me. I've already picked out which of my neighbors I'm going to kill first when the government collapses.
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For fun or for food?
 
To visit or for good? Either way, it's yes depending on the circumstances. Things remaining about as they are, I'd prefer not moving out of Minnesota, but if things get bad, I could see myself leaving if I had to.

I'm with Tahsha -- Russia is a very nice place, I loved Moscow and would totally be open to living there if the circumstances were right. Though the Russian city I love most is Nizhny Novgorod. My kids were born there, and I spent the better part of March 2009 there.
 
BDBoop said:
After reading The_Patriot's post about his dad's comments following Waco, and knowing my own feelings on the subject, have any of you considered relocating. If so, where would you move and why.
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I thought about visiting another country for a while when I was younger but never expatriation. Despite the fact the only seasons I like where I live is fall and spring I would live nowhere else.
 
BDBoop said:
Surely not anywhere?

When I thought I was going to be rich (don't ask) I seriously considered Panama. I don't know how I feel about Canada, except that it's not so very far away from me.

And of course I don't want to go anywhere where they think of us as "Ugly Americans."
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Come to Taiwan... Americans are generally well liked here...

I am U.S.-born but have lived most of my adult life in Taiwan. I haven't surrendered U.S. citizenship, but I currently represent Taiwan in international sports events (though this will likely be my last year of international competition) where I once represented the United States.
 
Kandahar said:
I've thought about living abroad temporarily (for a year or so), but I don't think I'd want to do it permanently. Some places that I think would be cool to live include Spain, Brazil, Czech Republic, Japan, China, or Australia.
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Lived in China for two years and loved the experience. Wouldn't want to stay there long-term, but for a couple of years, it is a great learning experience...
 
:) I would like to move out sometime merely because I would hate to have stayed one place in the whole world all my life.
 
MistressNomad said:
Yes. I actually made a half-baked attempt at it. I tried to stay to the UK - or anywhere in Europe so I could live in the UK. I went through Europe a few times. I lived and had a year-long visa in New Zealand that I didn't try to renew, but I saw other Americans try and they ran into the same problem I did in Europe.

Pretty much nowhere pleasant in the world actually wants Americans, and it is uniquely hard for them to gain residency or long-term/renewable visas. This is partially due to our own tendency to alienate other countries to the point where they don't want to form any serious ties with us.

I plan to try to move to the UK permanently again, but with a better game plan. You have to really, really want it just to get your foot in the door. Keeping it there is a whole nother battle. Trying to inch forward is a blitzkrieg.
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Very easy here in Taiwan and many parts of the country are very pleasant...
 
Red_Dave said:
Why Panama? (seems a rather random choice) personally Im not American but I hoping to get out as soon as possible, I planned to leave even before things got bad economically (just get itchy feet and dislike the culture) but now the economies ****ed its more of a necesitiy.
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Asset protection.
 
ludahai said:
Come to Taiwan... Americans are generally well liked here...

I am U.S.-born but have lived most of my adult life in Taiwan. I haven't surrendered U.S. citizenship, but I currently represent Taiwan in international sports events (though this will likely be my last year of international competition) where I once represented the United States.
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Orly? Can you share more?
 
Yes, in better times I've considered living in other countries. Been offered a job or two outside the U.S. These days it would be a bit difficult living on the exile plan.
 
Do you have family here you'd miss?
 
France would be nice, the French have always been good to me. Ireland is having a tough time of it now. I've always loved it though.

I haven't been over in a couple of years, but the mood has changed. I've always tried hard to avoid the "ugly Americans" and for a while that was very difficult to do. Since the economies of the world have gone to hell and since the U.S. has gone into full tilt empire mode Americans are less liked than ever. My son-in-law returned from a recent trip and said the ill-feeling is palpable.

Of course on an individual level the world is much the same people the world over a generally kind and friendly.

My wife and I were just south of Lyon on the motorway when 9/11 happened. The French were phenomenal. We had been to France several times prior to that and had always enjoyed France. On and just after 9/11 the French couldn't wait to express their feeling of solidarity with the United States. Of course as usual the American government peed all over that opportunity.
 
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