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Thread: Basic Shelter/Food/Medical Entitlements Neccessary in First World Governments?

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    Re: Basic Shelter/Food/Medical Entitlements Neccessary in First World Governments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Note only are entitlements not necessary, they're not Constitutional.

    No one is entitled to someone else's property. Slavery is illegal in civilized nations.
    Tell that to local gov. that if they decide they wish to widen your street and put in sidewalks they will make you sell them that part of your land. I mean force it on you
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    Re: Basic Shelter/Food/Medical Entitlements Neccessary in First World Governments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Tell that to local gov. that if they decide they wish to widen your street and put in sidewalks they will make you sell them that part of your land. I mean force it on you
    That is completely different. If the government pays fair market value for your property in order to provide a good or service for the benefit of everyone then it is legal and constitutional everywhere. That is not the same as telling me that I must work two days out of every week my entire life for the benefit of other people. The first is a godd thing. The second is state-mandated slavery.

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    Re: Basic Shelter/Food/Medical Entitlements Neccessary in First World Governments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Fascinating. In your view, when a business employs someone with a high salary it contributes to poverty and unemployment?
    Could you explain how?
    That wasn't what I said.

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    Then you are a Marxist.
    If it is true that the majority believes that the US Constitution should contain a fundamental tenet of Marxist dogma we are doomed as a nation.
    That single maxim isn't the totality of Marxism. There's a lot more to it than that.
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    Re: Basic Shelter/Food/Medical Entitlements Neccessary in First World Governments?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    That single maxim isn't the totality of Marxism. There's a lot more to it than that.
    Of course. But that is central and you agree to it. Therefore...

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    Re: Basic Shelter/Food/Medical Entitlements Neccessary in First World Governments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Of course. But that is central and you agree to it. Therefore...
    That's nonsense. That's like saying; 'Every four-legged mammal is a dog.'
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    Re: Basic Shelter/Food/Medical Entitlements Neccessary in First World Governments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Tell that to local gov. that if they decide they wish to widen your street and put in sidewalks they will make you sell them that part of your land. I mean force it on you
    Hello?

    You ought to try reading the eminent domain clause.

    It says the property taken shall be for public use.

    And the owner of the property shall receive just compensation.

    Since the government isn't giving a citizen a hundred dollars in cash for each hundred dollars expropriated for unconstitutional entitlement programs, then the government is not fulfilling it's Constitutional requirements.

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