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Thread: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Personally, I find incest to be pretty gross.

    However, if adults want to have consensual sexual relationships with their close relatives, I think it should be legal.

    I'm a little more against inbreeding, since there is an increased risk of genetic abnormalities there, but even that I don't feel strongly enough about to make it illegal.

    And let's not forget that certain kinds of incestuous marriages are legal in the united states. It's legal to marry a second cousin anywhere in the country. There are several states where you can legally marry a first cousin without restrictions. Rhode Island allows uncles to marry their nieces under some circumstances.

    It's all just a matter of degree.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    If it's harmless, it's not wrong, then.

    Even if the child is "damaged", who the Hell do you think you are to stop two consenting adults from having sex? Bigot!

    *And the plot thickens.

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    If it's harmless, it's not wrong, then.

    Even if the child is "damaged", who the Hell do you think you are to stop two consenting adults from having sex? Bigot!

    *And the plot thickens.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not what he said. Why insist on putting words in his mouth?
    Who's mouth am I refering to, Redress?

    Not his.

    I talk of people both religious or not against incest.

    But since you blundered in, are you tolerant of consenting incest adults?

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    two consenting adults should be able to do whatever the **** they want.

    Obviously inbreeding is more problematic.

    Whether incest is "wrong" is entirely subjective and is based on one's subjective values.

    Aside from the inbreeding issue, many object to incest for the same reason they do homosexual intercourse - it's icky. <--that shouldn't be the basis for legality.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    two consenting adults should be able to do whatever the **** they want.

    Obviously inbreeding is more problematic.

    Whether incest is "wrong" is entirely subjective and is based on one's subjective values.

    Aside from the inbreeding issue, many object to incest for the same reason they do homosexual intercourse - it's icky. <--that shouldn't be the basis for legality.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Fer real, yo. Get laid.
    don't need to say it twice lol.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    two consenting adults should be able to do whatever the **** they want.

    Obviously inbreeding is more problematic.

    Whether incest is "wrong" is entirely subjective and is based on one's subjective values.

    Aside from the inbreeding issue, many object to incest for the same reason they do homosexual intercourse - it's icky. <--that shouldn't be the basis for legality.
    Exactly, though I'm definitely D. A. on this.

    It simply humors me when certain pro-homosexuality liberals, who are "tolerant", freak out on this in a morally-bigoted fashion.

    Lol.

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Incest is wrong. I could care less if you call me a bigot for wanting incest banned.
    what makes it wrong, forrealz dawg?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    two consenting adults should be able to do whatever the **** they want.

    Obviously inbreeding is more problematic.

    Whether incest is "wrong" is entirely subjective and is based on one's subjective values.

    Aside from the inbreeding issue, many object to incest for the same reason they do homosexual intercourse - it's icky. <--that shouldn't be the basis for legality.
    I base my biggest objection to it on the fact that many sibling relationships begin during early childhood and/or prepubesence, not during adulthood. There is reason to believe that at least some of these relationships are not healthy relationships, a lot like teacher/student relationships, counselor/patient relationships, or parent/child relationships because there is no way to know how much the relationship developed naturally or how much it was influenced by the slight authority that one sibling would have over another sibling if they were raised together during early childhood, and most especially the bigger the age difference between the two siblings is.

    I don't think that we should encourage such relationships in general, but there certainly could be some considerations made for siblings who weren't raised together and possibly other reasons.

    It is not the same issue as homosexuality though. And people being against incest but being for homosexuality are not being hypocritical when they can give sound reason for their objections that really are more than just "it's icky" or "it's against my morality". You may not agree that the reasoning is enough to justify preventing them from having the right to be together but it doesn't mean that it isn't at least a better argument than those who are anti-homosexuality and/or anti-SSM.

    Along with this, siblings already do have some of the legal rights that homosexuals are being denied by the very virtue of being siblings. Blood relatives automatically are granted some legal recognition, although it is not nearly as much as spouses, it is more than just roommates or girlfriends/boyfriends.
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