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Thread: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Its mother ****ing DISGUSTING!!!! Im mean seriously... do we even need to have a poll on this!?!?
    Many people think that about many issues. You're not an exception.

    I did some probing on Google, and I was disgusted to find so many incestual people.

    But since when is disgust a good enough reason to stop others? So what if the child is born somewhat defected - is it not their child they will raise? Many people did so in the past, yet it seems we generations are somewhat OK, perhaps? Babies come out premature. Should we fault the mother if she decides to give birth earlier? It is their sex life, their choice. It's not as though they are aborting the child, right? Is not death worse than living a life with some good memories?

    *This is when I sarcasticly comment about bigotry.

    **Oh, and "mother******" would become hate speech, lol.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    I haven't read the thread, because it's probably already been derailed anyway. This will shock some people, but I don't believe the government should be in the business of making sexual activity between consenting adults illegal, period. To me incest is the ultimate ICK! factor, something that I would never do and I'll admit I'd be queasy if a married brother/sister moved in next door to me. But I don't think it's my right to say that it's wrong for them just because it's sure as hell wrong for me.

    I wouldn't be in a polygamous marriage either, but I don't believe the government should make it illegal.

    Let me be clear, I'm saying that presuming the first sexual contact was made when both participates were adults, I do not believe it should be illegal. Any sextual contact, especially incestuous abuse, against a child... illegal as hell and throw the book at 'em.

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Many people think that about many issues. You're not an exception.

    I did some probing on Google, and I was disgusted to find so many incestual people.

    But since when is disgust a good enough reason to stop others? So what if the child is born somewhat defected - is it not their child they will raise? Many people did so in the past, yet it seems we generations are somewhat OK, perhaps? Babies come out premature. Should we fault the mother if she decides to give birth earlier? It is their sex life, their choice. It's not as though they are aborting the child, right? Is not death worse than living a life with some good memories?

    *This is when I sarcasticly comment about bigotry.

    **Oh, and "mother******" would become hate speech, lol.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I haven't read the thread, because it's probably already been derailed anyway. This will shock some people, but I don't believe the government should be in the business of making sexual activity between consenting adults illegal, period. To me incest is the ultimate ICK! factor, something that I would never do and I'll admit I'd be queasy if a married brother/sister moved in next door to me. But I don't think it's my right to say that it's wrong for them just because it's sure as hell wrong for me.

    I wouldn't be in a polygamous marriage either, but I don't believe the government should make it illegal.

    Let me be clear, I'm saying that presuming the first sexual contact was made when both participates were adults, I do not believe it should be illegal. Any sextual contact, especially incestuous abuse, against a child... illegal as hell and throw the book at 'em.
    I agree with this, I also have only read a few of the posts but sex between consenting adults isnt anybody's business no matter how "I" view it.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    ...interesting, these various responses.

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    P.S.: Don't say inflammatory things and then have the nerve to act surprised when people react.

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    ...or harmless? Is consensual incest legal? If not, then why is society so morally bigoted? Since it's harmless and consensual, should it not only be legalized, but also given support as a group? Should we mention it in school? Allow ancestral marriages, etc? Should society stop being bigoted and slowly learn to accept it? It's against the Bible? Who cares?
    It is harmful to society and thus should not be tolerated. If it is mentioned in school, it should only be mentioned in this context.

    This is one of those rare cases where I agree with the Bible.

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Incestual relationships are more likely to produce genetically defective offspring.
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    I don't care what consenting adults do. If they want to risk having abnormal children that is their problem. But if they have a shred of decency and are of average intelligence they will take the necessary precautions not to get pregnant. Like women in their 40s also have to take similar precautions due to the increased risk of fetal abnormality. Same thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I am against incest for the harm to offspring issue.
    They're more likely, but it isn't particularly likely until it's occurred for a few generations in a row. Blood first cousins aren't any more likely to produce defective offspring than 40 year old women, and blood siblings aren't particularly more likely than that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Who cares about the child? We do legion abortions, Baralis.
    Leaving aside the argument against "defective children" as more or less irrelevant to the point, I would point out that abortion doesn't produce a defective child. We should care very much about children that are actually born.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It's a person's right to consensual sex, is it not?
    No, it isn't. If what they are doing is wrong, they do not have the right to do it.

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    Who are you to stop them?
    Who are you to stop me from stopping them?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Very rarely are you going to find a case where a brother and sister, separated at birth, find each other and fall in love. It happens, sure, but it isn't the vast majority of incest cases.
    I'll go further and argue that a blood brother and sister, separated at birth and raised by different families, shouldn't fall under the incest laws at all. I'm not concerned with blood. On the other hand, I think the incest laws should apply in full force against siblings, adopted or otherwise, who are raised within the same family. Incest is harmful because of what it does to families and their interactions with outside society.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Now, I would say that certain cases of incest should be able to petition for marriage rights, such as a step-brother and step-sister who didn't grow up together and are around the same age or an adult stepchild who wasn't raised by a stepparent and possibly even the rare case of the brother and sister who weren't raised together (although they should at least have to be provided genetic counseling). And I have no problem with first cousins and farther out relations marrying.
    I'm actually not entirely certain that incest laws-- and the prohibition on incestuous marriage-- applies to step-siblings in the first place. I am divided on the issue of whether it even should, because of the wide variances possible between step-siblings raised together from birth and adult step-siblings who meet each other first at their respective parent's wedding. If step-siblings are not allowed to marry, should parents be prohibited from marrying their childrens' in-laws? This is problematic, but I do not see it as problematic as siblings or even first cousins marrying and I'm not inclined to say that it should be illegal unless the step-siblings in question were undoubtedly raised together.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I wouldn't be in a polygamous marriage either, but I don't believe the government should make it illegal.
    I'm not opposed to polygamy. I even think a man should be allowed to marry siblings, as long as he himself is not related to them. Reconciling my ideal marriage laws with my ideal incest laws would be problematic and complicated, but in principle as long as the marriage involves a union between two or more families, it is acceptable.

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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    I could care less if adults kin to each other wish to bang away but have a problem with them reproducing due to the ill effects it could have on a fetus.

    You a legal adult and wanna bang your whole adult family? Go ahead but please do not breed.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Did I do so here, digsbe?

    Tell me what you percieve, and I will tell you what I said.
    I kinda saw it as a bait thread. The common argument of many who oppose SSM say that it will lead to the legalized weddings of deviant sexual behaviors like incest or bestiality. I don't know anyone in the gay rights movement who fights for legalized incest weddings. Forgive me if I've misjudged, but I saw it as somewhat of a bait thread.
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    Re: Incest - Good, Bad, Ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    They're more likely, but it isn't particularly likely until it's occurred for a few generations in a row. Blood first cousins aren't any more likely to produce defective offspring than 40 year old women, and blood siblings aren't particularly more likely than that.
    Actually, I read that there is growing evidence that there are at least a few problems that come from 1st generation incest, like developmental issues and behavioral problems.

    DNA Tests of Disabled Kids Uncover Evidence of Incest | TIME Healthland
    Children of incest. [J Pediatr. 1982] - PubMed result
    DNA suggesting incest raises concerns - UPI.com

    I'm not sure how accurate/sound these studies are, but it seems that they are finding that it isn't just generational incest that we have to worry about. Children of 1st generational incest still appear to exhibit more problems, on average, than other children.



    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I'm actually not entirely certain that incest laws-- and the prohibition on incestuous marriage-- applies to step-siblings in the first place. I am divided on the issue of whether it even should, because of the wide variances possible between step-siblings raised together from birth and adult step-siblings who meet each other first at their respective parent's wedding. If step-siblings are not allowed to marry, should parents be prohibited from marrying their childrens' in-laws? This is problematic, but I do not see it as problematic as siblings or even first cousins marrying and I'm not inclined to say that it should be illegal unless the step-siblings in question were undoubtedly raised together.
    It depends on the state. In some states, it is considered incest to sleep with an inlaw, so it just depends.

    I understand the step-siblings if they were raised together from a pretty young age and there seems to be some influence by one or the other. I don't agree with the inlaws incest thing at all because it doesn't fit into either of my concerns unless it is the vary rare circumstance where the two un-blood related families were living together for a while and there was some sort of influence that began before one of the two involved was old enough to consent (which is not very likely to be most cases of this happening).
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