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Thread: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

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    Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    I am sure people know what political correctness. Is it bad for society, or good?

    Should it be lessened? Increased?

    Also, it'd be awesome if you could give examples of political correctness to support your beliefs.

    Thank you.

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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    It drives me crazy. I don't have any specific examples off the top of my head, but basically, if somebody has whined about it being offensive then it's supposedly inappropriate.
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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    Political correctness is bad for society. Its basically bull **** thought control. Most of it is for deception.


    An example of political correctness being used for deception is when pro-illegals use the terms "immigrant", "undocumented immigrant", "undocumented worker", "migrant workers" or "undocumented American" instead of "illegal", " illegal alien or "illegal immigrant" when talking about illegals. The purpose of this deception is so they can hide the fact these people they are trying to defend are here illegally in order to lump in trespassers/invaders/criminals in with people who have legal permission to be in the country so that they can falsely accuse people of being anti-immigrant or racist. Pro-illegals also love to call anti-illegal immigration laws anti-immigrant in order to falsely imply that these laws somehow target people who have legal permission to be here.
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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    The question is way too simplistic. I try and be polite and not offend people. That is my choice. Forcing people to not offend others however is something else again.
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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    The most recent example that comes to mind was Juan Williams getting fired from NPR when he said he felt uneasy about fellow airplane passengers who wear "Muslim garb". I tend to think political correctness hurts this country more than it helps.
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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I am sure people know what political correctness. Is it bad for society, or good?

    Should it be lessened? Increased?

    Also, it'd be awesome if you could give examples of political correctness to support your beliefs.

    Thank you.
    I think being PC is profoundly intellectually dishonest, bad for society, and bad for debate. It usually comes up when discussing demographics, people, and society, and it's like an over-reaction to bigotry to the point where saying anything that highlights a difference between peoples makes you a Nazi eugenecist.

    Thing is, if we discussed these things honestly, perhaps we could actually change them for the better. No, pretending they don't exist is clearly a better option.

    I got called "classist" a while ago. I was working at a fast food place (thanks recession!) and commented that there are basically two kinds of people there - people who are passing through, and people who are there for years or decades. I was commenting that the lifer's tend to be antagonistic towards the short-termer's and I suspect this is due to the difference in their skill set and thus their prospects.

    Someone whinged at me for ages about it. I was working there too, dude. Obviously I'm not too good for it, and don't think I am, or I'd never have applied in the first place.

    But in that case, the PC person is saying it's "classist" to observe that people with more skills have better prospects. The implication is that they're stuck there and they can't help it.

    My position states that people can control that, and change that, if they wish to. I was living in New Zealand at the time, and vocational schools are often free.

    So, in addition to being intellectually dishonest, the PC person is also assuming the people are inherently incapable, and too stupid to advance themselves.

    My position assumes that betterment is possible, and people are capable.

    I'm rather insulted by PC people, frankly.

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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    Both good and bad.
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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    I think it depends where I am and what I am doing. If I am in class or at work I tend to be PC because those are places that are serious. If I am hanging out with my friends then I say whatever the **** I want.

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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Both good and bad.
    Would you elaborate on the good, Fiddytree?

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    Re: Political Correctness - Mind Control?

    I think the good is obvious. Encouraging members of society to be considerate of the feelings and viewpoints of others is in itself good. To some extent the basic ideal of "political correctness" is positive.

    On the other hand much of it gets tangled up with people's political worldviews with no regard for the worldviews of others (very ironically). For example people can very quickly be called racist by the standards and understanding of the one doing the judging, when in fact the one doing the judging is mistaken as to what the other person's actions mean in regards to what they believe. Oddly this is... ... insensitive.

    But I suppose Fiddy can answer for himself.
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