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    0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    0/0=1


    Truthy or Facty?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Neither. You cannot divide by zero. 0/0 is undefined.
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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Neither. You cannot divide by zero. 0/0 is undefined.
    What is the reason you can't divide by 0? It is because it becomes infinitly large, and can not be placed on a number scale.

    However it is possible to divide 0 by 0. If it wasn't possible, then how do you do derivation?

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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    0/0=1


    Truthy or Facty?
    Neither, If computer were allowed to give an answer, there would be many problems.


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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    0 / 0=x
    can be rewritten as
    0 = 0 * x

    x can be any number, not just one.

    **EDIT**
    Another reason why 0/0 must be undefined, and not 1

    Assume 0/0 = 1
    0 * 1 = 0
    0 * 2 = 0
    0 * 1 = 0 * 2
    (0 / 0) * 1 = 2
    1 * 1 = 2
    1 = 2
    Last edited by Kernel Sanders; 05-27-11 at 01:33 PM.

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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    0 / 0=x
    can be rewritten as
    0 = 0 * x

    x can be any number, not just one.

    **EDIT**
    Another reason why 0/0 must be undefined, and not 1

    Assume 0/0 = 1
    0 * 1 = 0
    0 * 2 = 0
    0 * 1 = 0 * 2
    (0 / 0) * 1 = 2
    1 * 1 = 2
    1 = 2
    It is not undefinied, it is dependent on what the previous values are. I am going to give you a function. What is the value of
    sin x/x at x= 0

    As I said before, how do you do derivation if 0/0 is undefined. 0/0 is either infinite or 0/0 = K

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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    It is not undefinied, it is dependent on what the previous values are. I am going to give you a function. What is the value of
    sin x/x at x= 0

    As I said before, how do you do derivation if 0/0 is undefined. 0/0 is either infinite or 0/0 = K
    It seems that you are confusing limits with equality.
    lim x->0+ (0/0) = +inf
    lim x->0- (0/0) = -inf
    Those are both valid. The actual value of 0/0, however, is undefined. Derivation is based on the limit as delta_x goes to zero, not the value when delta_x is equal to zero

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    Last edited by Kernel Sanders; 05-27-11 at 01:52 PM.

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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    It seems that you are confusing limits with equality.
    lim x->0+ (0/0) = +inf
    lim x->0- (0/0) = -inf
    Those are both valid. The actual value of 0/0, however, is undefined. Derivation is based on the limit as delta_x goes to zero, not the value when delta_x is equal to zero

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    It is the limit, but for all practical purposes it is equal to a certain value. If you want to use it in a equation, then you will use the value of whatever you get from 0/0.

    Also, your limits doesn't make any sense as there are no x in your equation.
    Last edited by Camlon; 05-27-11 at 02:18 PM.

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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Nothing can't be divided. There is nothing to divide.
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    Re: 0/0=1 Truthy or Facty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    0/0=1


    Truthy or Facty?
    0 has no value, you can't divide nothing by nothing.
    Math is logical bro.
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