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Thread: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

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    Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    2008 demonstrated a pretty significant political chasm between those under 25 and those over 50. The baby boomers are about to retire after spending themselves and the country into massive debt. They will ask the government (and, by extension, the young) to essentially bail them out after they completely ignored the consequences of their irresponsibility for the 25+ years they were in power. And the young will have little ability to do so without bankrupting themselves, considering the state of our nation's finances.

    We haven't hit a breaking point yet. Politicians are still extremely careful about how they refer to the baby boomers and the elderly when they campaign (case and point, the medicare debate). But as more and more retire and begin to get angry that they are not receiving what "they were promised," and as the young begin to get angry that they are being forced to pay for it, what do you think will happen?

    My question is, given the circumstances, are we headed toward a serious generational conflict in this country? A situation where the country becomes split more by age than by political parties?
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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    I don't know. I think a lot of the younger generation (those just getting into or coming out of high school) are amongst those with an entitlement mentality. They're the ones who have been raised by the parents who insist that we can't have "winners" and "losers", parents who will march up to school with their precious snowflake and demand that a bad grade be changed, or that their child wouldn't ever misbehave, parents who have not instilled any sense of discipline because children shouldn't be "limited" by societal expectations....I actually think we're in trouble for a completely different reason.
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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    I think there will be some strife, prehaps resentment towards the elderly by a youthful population. The thing about the baby boomers is that they are the sandwhich generation. They not only were raising kids of their own, but have also had to be primary caretakers for their parents as they got older and needed care. And their kids are likely going to have to do the same, the difference being that the baby boomers were still raised with the concept of the importance of family and duty. The generations after that don't find it nearly as important, and that is where the problems will come from.
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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I think there will be some strife, prehaps resentment towards the elderly by a youthful population. The thing about the baby boomers is that they are the sandwhich generation. They not only were raising kids of their own, but have also had to be primary caretakers for their parents as they got older and needed care. And their kids are likely going to have to do the same, the difference being that the baby boomers were still raised with the concept of the importance of family and duty. The generations after that don't find it nearly as important, and that is where the problems will come from.
    The baby boomers may have been raised with the concept of the importance of family and duty, but I'm not sure how well they have taken it to heart. Divorce boomed with the baby boomers, the draft ended with the boomers, and they certainly don't seem very concerned about the debt (and its consequences for their children and grandchildren) . . . except to the extent it may prevent them from getting SS and medicare benefits.

    From Paul Begala: The Worst Generation

    I don't completely share his views, but I think this gives somewhat of a taste of how easy it would be to demonize this class of people in the future. It's something that both speaks to me and worries me a little bit.
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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    All I know is, if there is one, and politicians have to choose between youth issues, and elderly issues, unless we start voting in greater numbers, we are going to lose, and it's not going to be close.
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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    No, because we are heading the war between Islam and the Western World.
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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    The best way to minimize conflict between grandparents and the grandkids is "generation skipping" inheritance.
    We got our kids started, paying their college education, and more. They don't stand to inherit much when the time comes.

    The bulk of the estate goes to the grandkids, and they know it.
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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    It's not a matter of conflict. The system will fail long before it is ever reformed. It's a simple matter of demographics; the number of people in my generation and the generation after mine isn't sufficient to support their children and a number of retirees equal to the number of people in the Boomer generation at the same time.

    The system would have worked fine if the retirement age had kept pace with the life expectancy.

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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The best way to minimize conflict between grandparents and the grandkids is "generation skipping" inheritance.
    We got our kids started, paying their college education, and more. They don't stand to inherit much when the time comes.
    Well, quite honestly, we need to go back to the ideal of the elderly living with their adult children and helping to raise their grandchildren. Let the twenty-somethings and the thirty-somethings go out and work two jobs to support their families while their parents are ensuring that their children will enjoy some continuity of cultural values.

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    Re: Are We Headed Toward a Generational War?

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