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    Government regulation of Churches?

    Should churches be defunded? If I recall they believe, iirc, taxpayer money. Or do they pay no taxes?

    Isn't it also true that churches, especially large churches, are run like businesses? Tax it. Iirc, I once saw a church worker bring a wheelbarrow down the aisle for tithes. This is true.

    These pseudo-businesses require tithes up to 10%. Perhaps catholicism can be an exception because it's a donation system.

    Do you think the government should regulate preaching, like monitoring for hate speech against homosexuals and prostitutes? Should churches be entirely defended? Taxed? Or the tithe system abolished?

    Should they be dealt with?
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Could you restate this?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    It's fine the way it is. I mean, they don't really pay taxes (well not property taxes anyway), not sure if clergy income is taxable or not. Maybe you can change one or two things in the tax code. But in terms of regulating preaching or monitoring for "hate speech". Hell ****ing no! Freedom of religion, if freedom of religion. And anyone can practice, preach, and believe any which way they want so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others in the process. I may be a simple atheist, but the type of thought control suggested here would be enough to get me in arms. A person's religion is no business of the government. It can just mind it's own bees wax.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Churches are tax-exempt. They should not enjoy this privilege.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Churches are tax-exempt. They should not enjoy this privilege.
    What he said, x10.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    The government should not regulate what Churches say.

    Nor anyone else or that matter.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Thousands of people are suckered into forming over millions of dollars. It's ludicrous that pastors work over the crowds and live lavishly. Ever noticed how a lot of "humble" pastors live? Expensive cars, clothes, suits?

    Think about it.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Thousands of people are suckered into forming over millions of dollars. It's ludicrous that pastors work over the crowds and live lavishly. Ever noticed how a lot of "humble" pastors live? Expensive cars, clothes, suits?

    Think about it.
    They aren't forcing anyone to give them money.

    I believe churches should be tax exempt for one reason, and one reason only. So the government can't phase out an unpopular religion(or all religion) by taxing it to death.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Thousands of people are suckered into forming over millions of dollars. It's ludicrous that pastors work over the crowds and live lavishly. Ever noticed how a lot of "humble" pastors live? Expensive cars, clothes, suits?

    Think about it.
    So what? That's not my problem. If people want to donate their money to their church, they are more than free to do so. If they want to believe in a particular religious doctrine, they are more than free to do so. It's their money, their choice, their business. It's not my business who spends money on what. So long as you are not infringing upon the rights of others, you should be free to do as you like. That's it.

    I think one problem with America in general these days is that we have become incredible busybodies. We have to be in everyone's business. People must be free to choose for themselves, particularly along religious lines. It's necessary for a free state. The government should have as little to do with religion as possible. Now some people brought up taxes, and sure we could discuss that and figure out if it's right for these churches to enjoy the tax free status they've been granted. But I think that's as far as it can ever go. You can't tell people what to think, how to believe, and regulate that through government force.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    They aren't forcing anyone to give them money.

    I believe churches should be tax exempt for one reason, and one reason only. So the government can't phase out an unpopular religion(or all religion) by taxing it to death.
    I say tax it like a business. That's basically what it is, in the service of providing faith based care for those so inclined to partake.
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