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Somebody created a "devils advocate" thread.
Sorry. Someone needed to say it. Carry on.
Not every one knew that?
Somebody created a "devils advocate" thread.
Sorry. Someone needed to say it. Carry on.
Not every one knew that?
Thousands of people are suckered into forming over millions of dollars. It's ludicrous that pastors work over the crowds and live lavishly. Ever noticed how a lot of "humble" pastors live? Expensive cars, clothes, suits?
my father is a minister. when we were little, once a month we got Shoney's, and for our Birthday we could get Outback; but only the birthday kid got steak - the other kid got the hamburger. generally you are describing roughly 0.1% of that job field.
However, when it comes to pastors, it is shades of grey. I know of multiple pastors from me and my families experiences. TV pastors are wealthy. They live like proud kings. Large churches give rise to worldly/materialistic pastors.
I know of those who cheat on their wives, sexually bully the women, and drive expensive cars. You have not seen what I have seen.
Redress, I ask simple and deep questions to gain understanding. Understanding is intelligence. We take our beliefs for granted; we just say what we think yet we're no more credible than anyone else. (You can pm me or post an inquisitive post if you wish to understand me further)
*This issue is a group of notions I disagree with. But why?
Should churches be defunded? If I recall they believe, iirc, taxpayer money. Or do they pay no taxes?
Isn't it also true that churches, especially large churches, are run like businesses? Tax it. Iirc, I once saw a church worker bring a wheelbarrow down the aisle for tithes. This is true.
These pseudo-businesses require tithes up to 10%. Perhaps catholicism can be an exception because it's a donation system.
Do you think the government should regulate preaching, like monitoring for hate speech against homosexuals and prostitutes? Should churches be entirely defended? Taxed? Or the tithe system abolished?
Should they be dealt with?
1) your questions are not deep
2) you avoid answering my questions. Why?
3) Who are you quoting and where are the quotes from in the comments you put in quotation marks?
Yeah, but Jeffery Dahmer was gay. Doesn't mean all homosexuals are mass murderers.
Should churches be defunded? If I recall they believe, iirc, taxpayer money. Or do they pay no taxes?
Isn't it also true that churches, especially large churches, are run like businesses? Tax it. Iirc, I once saw a church worker bring a wheelbarrow down the aisle for tithes. This is true.
These pseudo-businesses require tithes up to 10%. Perhaps catholicism can be an exception because it's a donation system.
Do you think the government should regulate preaching, like monitoring for hate speech against homosexuals and prostitutes? Should churches be entirely defended? Taxed? Or the tithe system abolished?
Should they be dealt with?
Thousands of people are suckered into forming over millions of dollars. It's ludicrous that pastors work over the crowds and live lavishly. Ever noticed how a lot of "humble" pastors live? Expensive cars, clothes, suits?
Think about it.
It's fine the way it is. I mean, they don't really pay taxes (well not property taxes anyway), not sure if clergy income is taxable or not. Maybe you can change one or two things in the tax code.
They aren't forcing anyone to give them money.
I believe churches should be tax exempt for one reason, and one reason only. So the government can't phase out an unpopular religion(or all religion) by taxing it to death.
Why shouldn't they, Your Star? It's trending in many other nations. Besides, it's hate speech and indoctrination. Let the government help teach the kids in the public schools.
We don't need churches anymore. We've clearly progressed further than you. NoW we wait for the others.
The power to tax is the power to destroy...
This is too much. No one is saying that the government should be allowed to tax churches/religious activities as much as they want without a vote. Taxes are not the power to destroy, unless we remove voting and the basic protections of representation from the equation. By authorizing taxes (we, the people), we do not give the power to destroy us - we give the government the power to serve us. Only when the safeguards established in the system have been tossed aside does the above worldview have legitimacy.