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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The power to tax is the power to destroy...

    This is too much. No one is saying that the government should be allowed to tax churches/religious activities as much as they want without a vote. Taxes are not the power to destroy, unless we remove voting and the basic protections of representation from the equation. By authorizing taxes (we, the people), we do not give the power to destroy us - we give the government the power to serve us. Only when the safeguards established in the system have been tossed aside does the above worldview have legitimacy.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Churches should be taxed if they don't engage in charitable activities.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    If Churches are going to take an active part in our Politics, then they should pay taxes..

    By the way.. I didn't vote in the poll because I didn't see how it applied to the subject at hand..
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    This is too much. No one is saying that the government should be allowed to tax churches/religious activities as much as they want without a vote. Taxes are not the power to destroy, unless we remove voting and the basic protections of representation from the equation. By authorizing taxes (we, the people), we do not give the power to destroy us - we give the government the power to serve us. Only when the safeguards established in the system have been tossed aside does the above worldview have legitimacy.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Churches should not be tax exempt in my opinion, but I do worry that they might use taxation as a way to stealthily regulate religions that they don't like. I'd be fine with churches being taxed if it was all the same.

    They absolutely should not be monitoring churches based on hate speech. That would violate not only freedom of religion but freedom of speech too.

    If there are churches which receive federal funding (I think you're wrong about this part), then they should absolutely lose that. It violates freedom of religion.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Should churches be defunded? If I recall they believe, iirc, taxpayer money. Or do they pay no taxes?

    Isn't it also true that churches, especially large churches, are run like businesses? Tax it. Iirc, I once saw a church worker bring a wheelbarrow down the aisle for tithes. This is true.

    These pseudo-businesses require tithes up to 10%. Perhaps catholicism can be an exception because it's a donation system.

    Do you think the government should regulate preaching, like monitoring for hate speech against homosexuals and prostitutes? Should churches be entirely defended? Taxed? Or the tithe system abolished?

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Why shouldn't they, Your Star? It's trending in many other nations.
    In what other nations?

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    Besides, it's hate speech and indoctrination.
    Over react much?

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    We don't need churches anymore. We've clearly progressed further than you. NoW we wait for the others.
    This country identifies itself as 70% Christian and 43% are church goers according to a USA Today poll from 2007. I has declined a little since then, but not enough to effect the info.

    Churches are not taxed because of the government not wanting to get tangles with religion. The SCOTUS ruled taxing a church was unconstitutional.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    This is too much. No one is saying that the government should be allowed to tax churches/religious activities as much as they want without a vote. Taxes are not the power to destroy, unless we remove voting and the basic protections of representation from the equation. By authorizing taxes (we, the people), we do not give the power to destroy us - we give the government the power to serve us. Only when the safeguards established in the system have been tossed aside does the above worldview have legitimacy.
    The American people did not "authorize" the income tax etc. The government put them in place without our consent.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Taxes are not the power to destroy
    actually, according to the Supreme Court, the power to tax is the power to destroy. See: McCulloch v. Maryland

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Why shouldn't government regulate churches? After all, is it not bigotry and hatred of the worst kind? If not now then assuredly later when the idea becomes more popular. Why should people care about a 200-year-old piece of paper? Obviously it keeps being changed so let's continue changing it, amirite?

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