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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    As my Sig suggests, this thread is a notion I'm entertaining.

    What you may find scary, is that I used these points from my uber-liberal college colleagues. Do you think this can't happen? It is very slowly gaining momentum. Stay vigilant.
    Last edited by Wake; 05-26-11 at 10:09 PM.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    As my Sig suggests, this thread is a notion I'm entertaining.

    What you may find scary, is that I used these points from my Knee-liberal college colleagues. Do you think this can't happen? It is very slowly gaining momentum. Stay vigilant.
    The constitution stands firm, this won't happen.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Should churches be defunded? If I recall they believe, iirc, taxpayer money. Or do they pay no taxes?

    Isn't it also true that churches, especially large churches, are run like businesses? Tax it. Iirc, I once saw a church worker bring a wheelbarrow down the aisle for tithes. This is true.

    These pseudo-businesses require tithes up to 10%. Perhaps catholicism can be an exception because it's a donation system.

    Do you think the government should regulate preaching, like monitoring for hate speech against homosexuals and prostitutes? Should churches be entirely defended? Taxed? Or the tithe system abolished?

    Should they be dealt with?
    Ummmm, the tithe system is established by your infallible bible. You want to change that by law?

    Churches are similiar to non profits, in that there is no ownership. While there may be a "profit" no dividends are paid and the increase in assets will not increase the value of any stock or owner's equity. The profit goes to capital improvement funds, to pay down debt or maybe just to provide a cushion against hard times. Yes some churches will build some crazy water park for Jesus. But as long as they get the money free of force I don't really care. I am with Your Star, taxing them would be far too risky.

    As for regulating what they preach, you have got to kidding me? HELL NO!

    The government should not enter the church's domain, at all.

    Is this just some sort of Devil's advocate routine? I don't know, but I am often amazed at how ignorant people are of the reasons for our founding principles.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    As my Sig suggests, this thread is a notion I'm entertaining.

    What you may find scary, is that I used these points from my uber-liberal college colleagues. Do you think this can't happen? It is very slowly gaining momentum. Stay vigilant.
    Bull. I have heard a handful of lefties call for removing tax exemption. No one takes them seriously. I have not heard anyone call for regulating their sermons. Maybe the righties that want to close the Muslims down.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    As my Sig suggests, this thread is a notion I'm entertaining.

    What you may find scary, is that I used these points from my uber-liberal college colleagues. Do you think this can't happen? It is very slowly gaining momentum. Stay vigilant.
    I'm sure people can say this or that. But actually getting it into law is another thing. Staying alive after that is still yet another thing.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    You should not tax churches just like the constitution says.


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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Should churches be defunded? If I recall they believe, iirc, taxpayer money. Or do they pay no taxes?

    Isn't it also true that churches, especially large churches, are run like businesses? Tax it. Iirc, I once saw a church worker bring a wheelbarrow down the aisle for tithes. This is true.

    These pseudo-businesses require tithes up to 10%. Perhaps catholicism can be an exception because it's a donation system.

    Do you think the government should regulate preaching, like monitoring for hate speech against homosexuals and prostitutes? Should churches be entirely defended? Taxed? Or the tithe system abolished?

    Should they be dealt with?
    This would signal the end of freedom of religion and freedom of speech as we know it.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You should not tax churches just like the constitution says.
    The constitution certainly does not say you cannot tax churches. Separation of church and state simply means that the government cannot disallow any religion or promote any religion above another. It doesn't say anything about taxing churches.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The constitution stands firm, this won't happen.
    "The constitution is an old piece of paper."

    "It's a living document."

    Look at history. What is politics? It is naive to think it cannot happen slowly but surely.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    "The constitution is an old piece of paper."

    "It's a living document."

    Look at history. What is politics? It is naive to think it cannot happen slowly but surely.
    There is always that possibility. There's also the possibility of being shot for implementing such a thing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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